TexasTiger 12,961 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: You are joking aren’t you? Biden’s overseas business dealings have been under renewed scrutiny since last week, when the New York Post published emails purportedly exchanged between Biden and associates in China and Ukraine. One email, dated May 13, 2017, and obtained by Fox News, includes a discussion of “remuneration packages” for six people in a business deal with a now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. The email appeared to identify Hunter Biden as “Chair / Vice Chair depending on agreement with CEFC.” The email includes a note that “Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate.” A proposed equity split references “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” with no further details. CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP Fox News spoke to one of the people who was copied on the email, who confirmed its authenticity. Sources told Fox News that "the big guy" is a reference to the former vice president. You don’t understand the concept of “proof,” do you? If this email was Eric’s I suspect you would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The real October Surprise is that Trump and the Republicans don’t have one Dana Milbank Columnist Oct. 19, 2020 Eric Trump, a bear of very little brain, had just the thing to help his father. Trump the Younger tweeted an aerial photo on Saturday of a sprawling luxury estate, writing: “The salary of a U.S. senator is $174,000 per year. This is Joe Biden’s house.” He added, with an eye-roll emoji, “Seems legit.” It would have been a tough hit on the Democratic presidential nominee — except the property in the photograph is not Biden’s. It hasn’t been for 24 years. He had bought it, dilapidated, in the mid-1970s for $185,000, then, after rehabilitating it over two decades, sold it for $1.2 million. The only scandal the episode revealed was how desperate President Trump and his allies are to find something — anything — that might change the trajectory of the race at this late stage. After 2016, only a fool would confidently predict the election outcome. But judging from the actions of Trump’s team and Republican lawmakers and candidates, it’s clear they think they’re losing. They’re attacking Democrats for having hard-to-pronounce names and for allegedly being closet vegans. They’re dropping supposed bombshells about Biden’s past that fail to detonate. And they’re pretending they never liked that Trump guy. Item: Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), a stalwart Trump ally now in a close race, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram his relationship with Trump is “like a lot of women who get married and think they’re going to change their spouse, and that doesn’t usually work out very well.” Cornyn, who publicly supported Trump diverting Pentagon funds for a border wall, now claims he opposed it. Item: Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), another Trump enabler for four years, excoriated Trump last week because he “kisses dictators’ butts,” “mocks evangelicals” and “flirted with white supremacists” — sentiments Sasse largely suppressed before he feared “a Republican bloodbath in the Senate.” Item: The New York Times reports that “midlevel aides on the campaign have even begun inquiring about employment on Capitol Hill after the election, apparently under the assumption that there will not be a second Trump administration for them to serve in.” If Republicans think abandoning ship now will work for them, I’ve got a house in Delaware to sell them. Even as Republicans belatedly decide the USS Trump is going down, they are mirroring his aimless campaign themes in their own races. In Pennsylvania, where Democrat Eugene DePasquale is poised to oust Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.), the National Republican Congressional Committee put up an ad on Oct. 13 attacking DePasquale — for his Italian name. “Eugene DePasquale: Tough to spell,” the announcer intones. The ad also mocks DePasquale’s CrossFit routine with scenes of gym equipment and push-ups. In Nebraska, where Democrat Kara Eastman is positioned to defeat a Republican incumbent, an ad by the Congressional Leadership Fund — the House GOP super PAC — shows the Democrat’s head superimposed over a raw steak. It accuses her of plotting to “get rid of farting cows,” warns she’ll “stick a fork in that Omaha steak” and closes with the announcer asking: “How do you like your tofu?” Fittingly, her opponent’s name is Rep. Don Bacon. Eastman, in a meeting with supporters, had said Republicans are “attacking me like crazy. There’s fliers going out to everybody in the district that I’m a radical socialist.” The CLF cut out all the words except “I’m a radical socialist” and uses that phrase in the ad. Another CLF ad says Eastman wants a “new world where no one eats meat.” And an NRCC ad says she wants to abolish cars and air travel and raise taxes to 70 percent. In Texas, where Democrat Sri Preston Kulkarni has a good shot to flip a Republican seat, the CLF attacks him for attending “notorious desert drug parties.” The “drug party” in question? The annual Burning Man arts festival, attended by tens of thousands. One Republican congressional nominee in Virginia slams his son to a wrestling mat and repeatedly pins him to show he’ll “put liberal ideas in a headlock.” At one Trump rally, embattled Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.) makes fun of the name of his colleague, Democratic vice-presidential nominee Kamala Harris. At another, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) says Biden supporters don’t “particularly like America.” If it all seems scattered and random (They’re corrupt capitalists! No, they’re socialists! No, they’re anarchists!), consider the direction from the top. Last week, Trump adviser Rudy Giuliani served up his latest Hunter Biden conspiracy theory to Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post. The evidence was so shoddy the main author reportedly refused to put his name on it. Giuliani must have hoped for an October Surprise. But the real surprise is this: After Trump ransacked the CIA, the Justice Department and the State Department for any morsel of dirt on his opponent, the election is upon us — and this is all he’s got? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/10/19/real-october-surprise-is-that-trump-republicans-dont-have-one/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,704 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 21 hours ago, Brad_ATX said: Who do you think Facebook and Twitter's customers are? Because they aren't me and you. Their customers are advertisers. We are the product. I agree with you. That's why "customers" was in quotation marks. But product is more accurate. Still, less product equals less advertising dollars. But thanks for making the post more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 47 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: You don’t understand the concept of “proof,” do you? If this email was Eric’s I suspect you would. You will never see a Biden deny the authenticity of these emails. They are busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,617 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: You will never see a Biden deny the authenticity of these emails. They are busted. Always hopeful, constantly trying to build up your team for something huge, yet inevitably falling on your face. You remind me of a Vanderbilt cheerleader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Leftfield said: Always hopeful, constantly trying to build up your team for something huge, yet inevitably falling on your face. You remind me of a Vanderbilt cheerleader. You make a great point......just like 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,961 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: You will never see a Biden deny the authenticity of these emails. They are busted. So are you. You’re little “gee whiz,” I’m not a Trump supporter, but...” is blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: So are you. You’re little “gee whiz,” I’m not a Trump supporter, but...” is blown. I didn’t vote for Trump in the R primary and I voted against Hillary in the general in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,961 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: I didn’t vote for Trump in the R primary and I voted against Hillary in the general in 2016. And you’re fully on board now. He reflects your values. It’s ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, TexasTiger said: And you’re fully on board now. He reflects your values. It’s ok. He beats the alternative by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,961 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: He beats the alternative by a long shot. Right. You’ve been so hungry for any morsel on Biden you’re hanging your judgement on a single weak ass email from someone else that supposedly refers to him as “the big guy.” Nothing else. No evidence he knew about the email. No evidence he ever got a dime. His tax returns are all public record. His son was a desperate cocaine addict. That’s it. You’ve been pretending you’re some even handed fair dealer for months. Phony as all hell. No wonder the con man reflects your values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,617 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: You make a great point......just like 2016. Would not surprise me at all to hear you were saying the exact same things four years ago. If I were a masochist I'd go look at some of the old threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,368 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Leftfield said: Would not surprise me at all to hear you were saying the exact same things four years ago. If I were a masochist I'd go look at some of the old threads. Joined in May, so no dice on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,617 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, ShocksMyBrain said: Joined in May, so no dice on that. Oh darn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,638 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, TexasTiger said: You don’t understand the concept of “proof,” do you? If this email was Eric’s I suspect you would. Democrats/liberals are suddenly concerned with truth? Where was all this concern through three years of the Russia Hoax, which was never proven and was never even a serious contender for truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,431 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Leftfield said: Always hopeful, constantly trying to build up your team for something huge, yet inevitably falling on your face. You remind me of a Vanderbilt cheerleader. Have you heard about the Russians-Collusion-Impeachment Stories over the last 4 years? The point is that if you think Biden is in any way a big improvement over Trump, you are setting yourself up to fail. He isnt. Improvement, yes. How much? about a nickels worth. https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/hunter-biden-email-detailing-chinese-ties-confirmed-by-source-report/ Quote Fox’s source verifying that the emails are authentic is not named, but the network said the person was someone copied on the thread. Hunter Biden, in the email, was identified as “Chair / Vice Chair depending on agreement with CEFC,” an apparent reference to the former Shanghai-based conglomerate CEFC China Energy Co. The email outlined a “provisional agreement” under which 80 percent of the “equity,” or shares in the new company, would be split equally among four people whose initials correspond to the sender and three recipients, with “H” apparently referring to Hunter Biden. The deal also listed “10 Jim” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” “Sources told Fox News that “the big guy” is a reference to the former vice president,” Fox reported. If you can still believe that the Bidens, Joe, Hunter, and the Brother yet to be dumped on arent involved in this, I have something for you, if you are going to act like a MAGA, then you might as well look like one. Looking on from afar, you sound no different than the closed minded MAGAs that will overlook anything to Vote FOR Trump. You will overlook anything to Vote Against Trump. Notice I did not accuse anyone on here of "Voting FOR Biden." I doubt even Jill is voting FOR Biden. Please stop telling me you support Biden. No one is Voting FOR Biden, we are all voting against Trump. Biden>Trump NO DOUBT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 9 hours ago, TexasTiger said: Right. You’ve been so hungry for any morsel on Biden you’re hanging your judgement on a single weak ass email from someone else that supposedly refers to him as “the big guy.” Nothing else. No evidence he knew about the email. No evidence he ever got a dime. His tax returns are all public record. His son was a desperate cocaine addict. That’s it. You’ve been pretending you’re some even handed fair dealer for months. Phony as all hell. No wonder the con man reflects your values. I do look at both sides. I don’t like Trump, but do like many of his accomplishments for our country these last 4 years. The things these emails reveal are absolutely horrible and scary and corrupt. Biden is exactly the type of politician our country needs less of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,961 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, SocialCircle said: I do look at both sides. I don’t like Trump, but do like many of his accomplishments for our country these last 4 years. The things these emails reveal are absolutely horrible and scary and corrupt. Biden is exactly the type of politician our country needs less of. If this is your assessment of objectively looking at both sides, you’re obviously not objectively looking at both sides. Trump’s your guy. He best reflects your values. He’s hateful, divisive, crude, incompetent and corrupt as hell, but he reflects your values. That’s what you really see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: If this is your assessment of objectively looking at both sides, you’re obviously not objectively looking at both sides. Trump’s your guy. He best reflects your values. He’s hateful, divisive, crude, incompetent and corrupt as hell, but he reflects your values. That’s what you really see. He's also a Brian Kemp guy, sooooo... what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,617 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, DKW 86 said: If you can still believe that the Bidens, Joe, Hunter, and the Brother yet to be dumped on arent involved in this, I have something for you, if you are going to act like a MAGA, then you might as well look like one. Looking on from afar, you sound no different than the closed minded MAGAs that will overlook anything to Vote FOR Trump. You will overlook anything to Vote Against Trump. Notice I did not accuse anyone on here of "Voting FOR Biden." I doubt even Jill is voting FOR Biden. Please stop telling me you support Biden. No one is Voting FOR Biden, we are all voting against Trump. Biden>Trump NO DOUBT. Wow. All this from my comparing someone to a Vanderbilt cheerleader? In all my posting, I guess you missed where I actually identify closest to Libertarian and traditionally have voted Republican, yet still see Trump as the greatest existential threat to this county in decades. Look, I get that you've decided to become the member of the board who realizes everyone in Washington is corrupt while nobody else gets it, all the while patting yourself on the back, but how about not going on a diatribe calling me a MAGA when you apparently don't even know my political leaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: If this is your assessment of objectively looking at both sides, you’re obviously not objectively looking at both sides. Trump’s your guy. He best reflects your values. He’s hateful, divisive, crude, incompetent and corrupt as hell, but he reflects your values. That’s what you really see. I agree with some of what you say here. Trump can be divisive and hateful to his enemies (although it is many times in response to attacks on him). He can be crude. He had corrupt business dealings prior to being elected, but I haven’t seen corruption as our President. He also cut taxes and regulations. It looks like he is going to get 3 excellent judges on the high court. He did redo some trade deals that benefit our country. He rebuilt the military and the VA. He got criminal justice reform with the First Step Act. His policies led to more people working in this country than ever before and historical low poverty rates among African Americans and Hispanic Americans. Illegal immigration is less of an issue and over 300 miles of wall has been completed. Here locally people have more and therefore are spending more. Our school system benefits from a local option sales tax. At the end of the Obama administration we were receiving an average of $90k a month. Now we are receiving an average of over $135k per month. This is just a partial list and I suspect this is why recently 56% said they are better off than they were 4 years ago despite the pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, McLoofus said: He's also a Brian Kemp guy, sooooo... what you said. Yes, I think Kemp has done an especially good job handling the pandemic. The WHO and other scientists are now coming to the same conclusion. You protect the vulnerable as best as possibly can and everyone else needs to go about their business while adhering to the common sense steps of washing hands, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I'm voting for Biden. He's the better candidate. I hope that he wins so that we will still have a representative democracy in which I can vote for better candidates, but in a couple weeks I'm definitely voting for Biden. He's probably about as flawed as every guy who's been president since I've been alive. Except Obama. He was above the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,431 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Leftfield said: Wow. All this from my comparing someone to a Vanderbilt cheerleader? In all my posting, I guess you missed where I actually identify closest to Libertarian and traditionally have voted Republican, yet still see Trump as the greatest existential threat to this county in decades. Look, I get that you've decided to become the member of the board who realizes everyone in Washington is corrupt while nobody else gets it, all the while patting yourself on the back, but how about not going on a diatribe calling me a MAGA when you apparently don't even know my political leaning. Brother, my post was to folks in general. It was not to you specifically if at all. If you took it that way, I apologize. My bad. I was speaking of the rank and file Anti-Trumpers. and certainly not you specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,617 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, DKW 86 said: Brother, my post was to folks in general. It was not to you specifically if at all. If you took it that way, I apologize. My bad. I was speaking of the rank and file Anti-Trumpers. and certainly not you specifically. Fair enough. When you quoted my post I assumed that it was directed at me. My apologies, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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