Popular Post StatTiger 3,188 Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 Through ten games, the Auburn pass offense has compiled a pass efficiency rating of 132.5, significantly improving from the 110.0 rating in 2022. Auburn’s current pass efficiency is the best since the 2018 season. The transition to Payton Thorne being the true starting quarterback has paid off, as Auburn’s pass efficiency during the current winning streak is 160.4. Auburn has a pass efficiency rating of 145.1 on first down, a major improvement from the 122.3 rating in 2022. During the current winning streak, Auburn has increased passing on first down, resulting in a pass efficiency of 169.4. Has the Auburn pass arrived? No, as the following data will show. It is, however, a good sign of improvement and a foundation for the Hugh Freeze offenses to come. Here are some recent trends that need to improve regarding the pass offense. · From 1992-2023, Auburn’s average yards per pass attempt is 7.49. Auburn is currently at 6.88 yards, marking the fifth year in a row the pass attempt average has fallen below 7.0 yards. It has improved to 7.93 yards per attempt during the last three games. · Auburn averages a pass play of 15+ yards every 8.2 attempts, the worst ratio from 1992-2023. The average ratio during the last 32 seasons is one every 5.6 attempts. It has improved to 1 every 6.7 attempts during the last three games. · Passing efficiency on third down is 94.5, well below the school average of 124.1 from 1992-2023. It is also below last year’s third down rating of 106.0. It has improved during the last three games at 123.0. Games of 140+ pass efficiency and at least 30 yards rushing (1990-2023): Cam Newton (9) 9.0 per season. Nick Marshall (13) 6.5 per season. Payton Thorne (5) 5.0 per season. (Thorne has three games left in 2023.) Dameyune Craig (6) 3.0 per season. Bo Nix (7) 2.3 per season. Thoughts? 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne Pride 379 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 You are way too smart for this message board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,593 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I still think we’re a QB and a few good WRs away from living up to potential. I’m glad we’ve made progress, just seems like we’re finally getting the most out of what we have vs being what we truly are capable of being. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,228 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 14 hours ago, StatTiger said: Through ten games, the Auburn pass offense has compiled a pass efficiency rating of 132.5, significantly improving from the 110.0 rating in 2022. Auburn’s current pass efficiency is the best since the 2018 season. The transition to Payton Thorne being the true starting quarterback has paid off, as Auburn’s pass efficiency during the current winning streak is 160.4. Auburn has a pass efficiency rating of 145.1 on first down, a major improvement from the 122.3 rating in 2022. During the current winning streak, Auburn has increased passing on first down, resulting in a pass efficiency of 169.4. Has the Auburn pass arrived? No, as the following data will show. It is, however, a good sign of improvement and a foundation for the Hugh Freeze offenses to come. Here are some recent trends that need to improve regarding the pass offense. · From 1992-2023, Auburn’s average yards per pass attempt is 7.49. Auburn is currently at 6.88 yards, marking the fifth year in a row the pass attempt average has fallen below 7.0 yards. It has improved to 7.93 yards per attempt during the last three games. · Auburn averages a pass play of 15+ yards every 8.2 attempts, the worst ratio from 1992-2023. The average ratio during the last 32 seasons is one every 5.6 attempts. It has improved to 1 every 6.7 attempts during the last three games. · Passing efficiency on third down is 94.5, well below the school average of 124.1 from 1992-2023. It is also below last year’s third down rating of 106.0. It has improved during the last three games at 123.0. Games of 140+ pass efficiency and at least 30 yards rushing (1990-2023): Cam Newton (9) 9.0 per season. Nick Marshall (13) 6.5 per season. Payton Thorne (5) 5.0 per season. (Thorne has three games left in 2023.) Dameyune Craig (6) 3.0 per season. Bo Nix (7) 2.3 per season. Thoughts? Like I said: We be gettin better!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win4AU 4,055 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Pretty amazing how much better it got once Hugh got involved. I know Hugh is all for autonomy but he gave a lot of Auburn fans heartburn having to sit through Monty’s misadventures the first 6 games. It’s AUmazing how the defense doesn’t get gassed running tempo either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodford 3,681 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 PT has always had the ability but the coaching/OL wasn't helping anyone. I'm sure CHF had his reasons but I'm glad he's letting it fly now. Great info! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland tiger 616 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) We will see how Payton does when Auburn plays buma. Edited November 17, 2023 by maryland tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatTiger 3,188 Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, maryland tiger said: We will see how Payton does when Auburn plays buma. Probably will see how the "team" does against Alabama too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,228 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 46 minutes ago, StatTiger said: Probably will see how the "team" does against Alabama too. Not on one set if shoulders!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland tiger 616 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, StatTiger said: Probably will see how the "team" does against Alabama too. The "Team" doesn't touch the ball every offensive play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatTiger 3,188 Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 hours ago, maryland tiger said: The "Team" doesn't touch the ball every offensive play. So Thorne is directly involved in 45.6 percent of the plays regarding actual yardage gained or lost. That means the remainder of the offense (54.4%) needs to play well against Alabama. (I have not seen him struggle handing the ball off.) Indeed, a solid defensive outing would aid the cause for a potential upset. Special teams could assist in field position or setting up scoring opportunities for Auburn while forcing Alabama to drive longer fields, limiting their scoring. He can't control dropped passes, poor route running, and penalties. Thorne alone cannot beat Alabama, and if Auburn loses, there will likely be plenty of fault to dish out. Through ten games, Thorne has reached a pass rating of 140+ on seven occasions and still has three games to play. During the past 50 years of Auburn football, only Jason Campbell, Cam Newton, Nick Marshall, and Jarrett Stidham have compiled eight or more in one season. Does this make him a star? No, but it shows his level of consistency. I would not be surprised to see him struggle against Alabama because he doesn't have the same supporting cast that Alabama's roster will bring. If Auburn has any shot at pulling off the upset, it will take a "team" effort, and yes, Thorne will have to make plays. A good sign of a QB is how he responds after a bad play. Here are Thorne’s pass ratings after throwing a pick. I included his final pass efficiency for the entire game. California 238.4 (153.5) Samford 177.8 (146.8) Ole Miss 280.4 (143.8) Vandy 210.9 (140.3) Arkansas 174.6 (167.9) In every case, he played better after throwing a pick. His combined passing totals after tossing a pick… 43 of 59 for 594 yards, 7 TD’s, and one pick. Completes 73 pct of his passes for 10.1 yards per attempt. These are strong numbers and reflect his ability to play the next down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPTiger 5,204 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 @StatTiger at about game 5 or 6 I argued one reason our offense was not performing well was because we were not balanced. We were very run heavy and it seemed even more run heavy on first down. Any chance you could compare overall balance during the 4 game losing streak and the 3 game winning streak and the balance on first down during the same games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatTiger 3,188 Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, LPTiger said: @StatTiger at about game 5 or 6 I argued one reason our offense was not performing well was because we were not balanced. We were very run heavy and it seemed even more run heavy on first down. Any chance you could compare overall balance during the 4 game losing streak and the 3 game winning streak and the balance on first down during the same games. During the four-game losing streak, Auburn was 70.2 percent run during the first half. During the 3-game winning streak, 52.7% run during the first half. With the lead at halftime, we are 76.7% run during the second half (3-game winning streak). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPTiger 5,204 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 4 hours ago, StatTiger said: During the four-game losing streak, Auburn was 70.2 percent run during the first half. During the 3-game winning streak, 52.7% run during the first half. With the lead at halftime, we are 76.7% run during the second half (3-game winning streak). What you are able to do in such short periods of time is simply amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman87 398 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2023 Auburn passing statistics remind me of the quote "50% of the time it works every time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp Eagle 5,156 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 On 11/16/2023 at 5:08 PM, StatTiger said: Through ten games, the Auburn pass offense has compiled a pass efficiency rating of 132.5, significantly improving from the 110.0 rating in 2022. Auburn’s current pass efficiency is the best since the 2018 season. The transition to Payton Thorne being the true starting quarterback has paid off, as Auburn’s pass efficiency during the current winning streak is 160.4. Auburn has a pass efficiency rating of 145.1 on first down, a major improvement from the 122.3 rating in 2022. During the current winning streak, Auburn has increased passing on first down, resulting in a pass efficiency of 169.4. Has the Auburn pass arrived? No, as the following data will show. It is, however, a good sign of improvement and a foundation for the Hugh Freeze offenses to come. Here are some recent trends that need to improve regarding the pass offense. · From 1992-2023, Auburn’s average yards per pass attempt is 7.49. Auburn is currently at 6.88 yards, marking the fifth year in a row the pass attempt average has fallen below 7.0 yards. It has improved to 7.93 yards per attempt during the last three games. · Auburn averages a pass play of 15+ yards every 8.2 attempts, the worst ratio from 1992-2023. The average ratio during the last 32 seasons is one every 5.6 attempts. It has improved to 1 every 6.7 attempts during the last three games. · Passing efficiency on third down is 94.5, well below the school average of 124.1 from 1992-2023. It is also below last year’s third down rating of 106.0. It has improved during the last three games at 123.0. Games of 140+ pass efficiency and at least 30 yards rushing (1990-2023): Cam Newton (9) 9.0 per season. Nick Marshall (13) 6.5 per season. Payton Thorne (5) 5.0 per season. (Thorne has three games left in 2023.) Dameyune Craig (6) 3.0 per season. Bo Nix (7) 2.3 per season. Thoughts? I just love the fact that your lack of having a life is so beneficial to the rest of us! 😎 Seriously, I love the stuff you bring, Stat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland tiger 616 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/17/2023 at 5:41 PM, StatTiger said: So Thorne is directly involved in 45.6 percent of the plays regarding actual yardage gained or lost. That means the remainder of the offense (54.4%) needs to play well against Alabama. (I have not seen him struggle handing the ball off.) Indeed, a solid defensive outing would aid the cause for a potential upset. Special teams could assist in field position or setting up scoring opportunities for Auburn while forcing Alabama to drive longer fields, limiting their scoring. He can't control dropped passes, poor route running, and penalties. Thorne alone cannot beat Alabama, and if Auburn loses, there will likely be plenty of fault to dish out. Through ten games, Thorne has reached a pass rating of 140+ on seven occasions and still has three games to play. During the past 50 years of Auburn football, only Jason Campbell, Cam Newton, Nick Marshall, and Jarrett Stidham have compiled eight or more in one season. Does this make him a star? No, but it shows his level of consistency. I would not be surprised to see him struggle against Alabama because he doesn't have the same supporting cast that Alabama's roster will bring. If Auburn has any shot at pulling off the upset, it will take a "team" effort, and yes, Thorne will have to make plays. A good sign of a QB is how he responds after a bad play. Here are Thorne’s pass ratings after throwing a pick. I included his final pass efficiency for the entire game. California 238.4 (153.5) Samford 177.8 (146.8) Ole Miss 280.4 (143.8) Vandy 210.9 (140.3) Arkansas 174.6 (167.9) In every case, he played better after throwing a pick. His combined passing totals after tossing a pick… 43 of 59 for 594 yards, 7 TD’s, and one pick. Completes 73 pct of his passes for 10.1 yards per attempt. These are strong numbers and reflect his ability to play the next down. Payton doesn't have any excuses for tonight's performance. Auburn should move on from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU57 67 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 What a dumb #xx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland tiger 616 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, AU57 said: What a dumb #xx 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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