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[GwillMac6 20,685]

 

[WFE12 9,191]

 

[WFE12 9,191]

Yes sir!!!!

 

[WFE12 9,191]

 

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[GwillMac6 20,685]

I hope it is still #BRODIESZN for you @abw0004!!!! lol. WOOOOOOO!!!!!! Love it fam!!!!

[GwillMac6 20,685]

Of all of the different versions of LeBron the one of him just being a proud fan and pops watching his son play is already one of his favorites. LETS GO BROOOOOONNNNNNY!!!!!! WOOOOO!!!!!!

 

[GwillMac6 20,685]

 

[aujeff11 6,243]

Damn!!!!

Get em, Griffin!!

 

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27302340/griffin-was-miserable-building-lebron

Edited August 1, 2019 by aujeff11

[GwillMac6 20,685]

 

[GwillMac6 20,685]

People as usual got excited because they thought he was trashing Bron when he was just eviscerating the media. TYYYYYYYP things getting taken out of context. People just read a transcript and not listen to the actual interview and ran with it.

 

[aujeff11 6,243]

3 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said:

 

Spinning Griffin’s own words. lol

[GwillMac6 20,685]

If Woj had a opportunity to bury Bron for this and paint this as Griff talking bad about Bron he would. But then that would of not been accurate. He hates LeBron because he has no sources in his camp and has for years and has never passed on a chance to take a shot at him because he is petty.

Copy and Pasted from NBA Reddit:

Woj really doesn't like LeBron

Woj is the best when it comes to breaking news. The. Best.

But Woj hates LeBron. And he's not afraid to wield his reputation against him.

Don't let you're trust for Woj's news-breaking tweets clout your judgment when it comes to his editorialized articles, like the one he put out today on Magic and Luke.

Don't have to take my word for it, though. Here is a sampling of just a few of the many times Woj has gone from reliable-news-breaker to emotional-stone-caster.

 

Select Excerpts from past Woj articles

• From woj's 2009 article, 'King James left the playoffs as a loser'

As it turns out, there’s one thing allowed to happen at the end of a playoff series: Everyone bows down and kisses the King’s ring. Only, LeBron doesn’t have a ring. He’s never won a game in the NBA Finals.

Here’s the question: Who has the guts to tell him that he sounds like an immature, self-absorbed brat? Here’s the problem for the Cavaliers and James: No one.

• From woj's 2010 article, 'LeBron’s moment of truth awaits':

James is chasing Warren Buffett and Jay-Z the way he should be chasing Russell and Jordan and Bryant.

He wants CEOs to bow before him, engage him as though he is a contemporary on the frontlines of industry. Only, the truth of the matter is, he’s a singular talent who’s going to watch his playoff failures start to chip away at the thing that seems to matter most to him: his marketability and magnetism.

Everything has come too easy to him, and he still doesn’t believe that winning championships takes a consuming, obsessive desire that borders on the maniacal. He is chasing high school and college kids on recruiting trips for his fledgling marketing company, medicating his insecurities with unending and unfolding free-agent dramas.

Stop strutting, stop preening, stop stomping away as an ungracious winner, a sore loser, and win something, LeBron.

For all of James’ unselfishness on the floor, he can still be so selfish off it. They could’ve lined up the greatest players in the game’s history Tuesday night in the primes of their championship lives, and there isn’t one of them who would’ve deflected and deferred like the self-proclaimed King James.

• From woj's article 'Poor shot selection' on LeBron's performance in the 2007 Finals:

The season was on the line, and LeBron James needed to take the shot. What part of that doesn't he understand?

We are witnesses, all right. We are witnesses to the truth that James is trailing Dwyane Wade as the sport's best young superstar.

It was his time. His moment. He passed the ball away, saying later that he believed it would come back to him. He never should've risked it.

These are the NBA finals, and that's James' job. It comes with everything. What part of that doesn't he understand?

• From woj's article 'Given chance to win All-Star game, LeBron James takes a pass' on the 2012 All-Star game:

Bryant has five titles to James' none, and had to bail James out in the fourth quarter of the gold-medal game of the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. Now Kobe was within inches, screaming into James' face, "Shoot the [expletive] ball!" And, still, LeBron's instincts weren't to take ball and deliver it down Bryant's throat. Score on Kobe, win the game and tell him to go to hell. Bryant would respect that.

So would Michael Jordan. Magic Johnson. Larry Bird. LeBron James is different. He's probably better than all of them, but nothing in his DNA demanded that he go after Bryant there, that he destroy him in that moment.

• From woj's article, 'LeBron stalls again in the clutch', on Miami's regular OT loss to the Clippers in 2012:

When it mattered most, LeBron James failed, and that turned out to be the sweetest symphony at Staples Center. That’s his burden until he owns a championship, because there’s only vindication in the ultimate victory. James missed his free throws, missed five of his six shots in the fourth quarter and overtime.

Judgment comes in June, not January, but these fourth-quarter failures hang over James like no one else in the NBA.

The mocking, the taunts, came cascading down in the Staples Center on Wednesday night, and this unrelenting saga turns a two-time MVP into a punch line. Twenty-four hours earlier, James refused to shoot in a loss to the Golden State Warriors, and now it was something else against the Los Angeles Clippers. With him, it’s always something else.

• From woj's 2008 article on USA olympic basketball:

Four years ago, James, Wade and Carmelo Anthony were immature teeny-boppers. James and Anthony had developed a horrible reputation for partying, dissing USA Basketball staff and acting like the ugliest of Americans.

• From woj's 2010 article, 'LeBron faces first true test of adversity'

LeBron James lives for the drama to unfold, to leave everyone guessing his next move, next choice, next town. As a 16-year-old, he declared himself to the world by climbing out of a sneaker company limo armed with shades, an entourage and a shirt proclaiming King James.

What appeared to be a physical issue with LeBron’s elbow early in the Eastern Conference semifinals turned into something perhaps more perplexing, more troublesome: a mentally checked-out James, on and off the floor. When the Cavs needed him most in a humiliating Game 5 loss, James looked like he was in a sedated state, a trance, a thousand miles away.

He’s 25 years old, a two-time MVP and this is a night to stop acting surprised that the world wants something more out of him. It’s time, King James. It’s here.

• From woj's 2009 article, 'LeBron's silence is golden':

For most of the past two years, James hasn't just indulged the discussion of his free agency, he's courted and craved it.

He wants the public to parse his words, to find meaning intended and unintended. He's a little too late shutting down the issue, a little too far down the road to July 1, 2010, to pretend like he's a victim of a voracious 24-hour news cycle.

• From woj's 2010 article, 'LeBron trades one drama for another':

"Me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute," James said.

Yes, his team. That's where James' loyalties lie, where together they'll chase the one title he's forever chased: the biggest free agent of his generation.

Together, these narcissists will manufacture a drama that will undermine the conference and NBA Finals, the NBA draft and Fourth of July parades in small towns and big cities across America.

Truth be told, James did something no champion would've ever dared: He quit on his teammates.

The next time you hear James, as the franchise star, say, "This was on me," will be the first. All around James, his yes men never require him to deal in the currency of truth.

 

Woj isn't just mean when it comes to LeBron... he's usually wrong

1 week before 'The Decision' Woj wrote "the Chicago Bulls are still the team to beat, with Cleveland a close second and New Jersey the looming wild card".

A few days before LeBron announced his decision, Woj wrote "he needed the threat of leaving [Cleveland], even if there was never truly the intent.".

Then, after the decision was announced, Woj wrote a column detailing supposedly detailing exactly how LeBron came to choose Miami.

As The New Republic put it:

His reporting on LeBron James was consistently sloppy and poorly sourced, yet Wojnarowski had the audacity to present his piece as the definitive account. With just two quotes from anonymous sources and a history of being wrong about James, it doesn’t deserve to be treated as reliable.

As Ethan Strauss put it:

“If all this was so telegraphed, then Wojnarowski missed multiple Morse

 memos. Now Adrian claims retroactive omniscience? My temples throb at the thought. Insiders should prove their status with a hefty helping of named sources. I give leeway to those with impeccable track records, but Adrian just whiffed on a big one.
	



	Four years later, Woj, was wrong again, putting out a piece called 'How Cleveland lost its way, and lost a chance at LeBron's return'



	 



	Woj is great at breaking news. But remember to take his articles with a grain of salt.



	Especially when LeBron is involved.

[aujeff11 6,243]

2 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said:

If Woj had a opportunity to bury Bron for this and paint this as Griff talking bad about Bron he would. But then that would of not been accurate. He hates LeBron because he has no sources in his camp and has for years and has never passed on a chance to take a shot at him because he is petty.

Copy and Pasted from NBA Reddit:

Woj really doesn't like LeBron

Woj is the best when it comes to breaking news. The. Best.

But Woj hates LeBron. And he's not afraid to wield his reputation against him.

Don't let you're trust for Woj's news-breaking tweets clout your judgment when it comes to his editorialized articles, like the one he put out today on Magic and Luke.

Don't have to take my word for it, though. Here is a sampling of just a few of the many times Woj has gone from reliable-news-breaker to emotional-stone-caster.

 

Select Excerpts from past Woj articles

• From woj's 2009 article, 'King James left the playoffs as a loser'

As it turns out, there’s one thing allowed to happen at the end of a playoff series: Everyone bows down and kisses the King’s ring. Only, LeBron doesn’t have a ring. He’s never won a game in the NBA Finals.

Here’s the question: Who has the guts to tell him that he sounds like an immature, self-absorbed brat? Here’s the problem for the Cavaliers and James: No one.

• From woj's 2010 article, 'LeBron’s moment of truth awaits':

James is chasing Warren Buffett and Jay-Z the way he should be chasing Russell and Jordan and Bryant.

He wants CEOs to bow before him, engage him as though he is a contemporary on the frontlines of industry. Only, the truth of the matter is, he’s a singular talent who’s going to watch his playoff failures start to chip away at the thing that seems to matter most to him: his marketability and magnetism.

Everything has come too easy to him, and he still doesn’t believe that winning championships takes a consuming, obsessive desire that borders on the maniacal. He is chasing high school and college kids on recruiting trips for his fledgling marketing company, medicating his insecurities with unending and unfolding free-agent dramas.

Stop strutting, stop preening, stop stomping away as an ungracious winner, a sore loser, and win something, LeBron.

For all of James’ unselfishness on the floor, he can still be so selfish off it. They could’ve lined up the greatest players in the game’s history Tuesday night in the primes of their championship lives, and there isn’t one of them who would’ve deflected and deferred like the self-proclaimed King James.

• From woj's article 'Poor shot selection' on LeBron's performance in the 2007 Finals:

The season was on the line, and LeBron James needed to take the shot. What part of that doesn't he understand?

We are witnesses, all right. We are witnesses to the truth that James is trailing Dwyane Wade as the sport's best young superstar.

It was his time. His moment. He passed the ball away, saying later that he believed it would come back to him. He never should've risked it.

These are the NBA finals, and that's James' job. It comes with everything. What part of that doesn't he understand?

• From woj's article 'Given chance to win All-Star game, LeBron James takes a pass' on the 2012 All-Star game:

Bryant has five titles to James' none, and had to bail James out in the fourth quarter of the gold-medal game of the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. Now Kobe was within inches, screaming into James' face, "Shoot the [expletive] ball!" And, still, LeBron's instincts weren't to take ball and deliver it down Bryant's throat. Score on Kobe, win the game and tell him to go to hell. Bryant would respect that.

So would Michael Jordan. Magic Johnson. Larry Bird. LeBron James is different. He's probably better than all of them, but nothing in his DNA demanded that he go after Bryant there, that he destroy him in that moment.

• From woj's article, 'LeBron stalls again in the clutch', on Miami's regular OT loss to the Clippers in 2012:

When it mattered most, LeBron James failed, and that turned out to be the sweetest symphony at Staples Center. That’s his burden until he owns a championship, because there’s only vindication in the ultimate victory. James missed his free throws, missed five of his six shots in the fourth quarter and overtime.

Judgment comes in June, not January, but these fourth-quarter failures hang over James like no one else in the NBA.

The mocking, the taunts, came cascading down in the Staples Center on Wednesday night, and this unrelenting saga turns a two-time MVP into a punch line. Twenty-four hours earlier, James refused to shoot in a loss to the Golden State Warriors, and now it was something else against the Los Angeles Clippers. With him, it’s always something else.

• From woj's 2008 article on USA olympic basketball:

Four years ago, James, Wade and Carmelo Anthony were immature teeny-boppers. James and Anthony had developed a horrible reputation for partying, dissing USA Basketball staff and acting like the ugliest of Americans.

• From woj's 2010 article, 'LeBron faces first true test of adversity'

LeBron James lives for the drama to unfold, to leave everyone guessing his next move, next choice, next town. As a 16-year-old, he declared himself to the world by climbing out of a sneaker company limo armed with shades, an entourage and a shirt proclaiming King James.

What appeared to be a physical issue with LeBron’s elbow early in the Eastern Conference semifinals turned into something perhaps more perplexing, more troublesome: a mentally checked-out James, on and off the floor. When the Cavs needed him most in a humiliating Game 5 loss, James looked like he was in a sedated state, a trance, a thousand miles away.

He’s 25 years old, a two-time MVP and this is a night to stop acting surprised that the world wants something more out of him. It’s time, King James. It’s here.

• From woj's 2009 article, 'LeBron's silence is golden':

For most of the past two years, James hasn't just indulged the discussion of his free agency, he's courted and craved it.

He wants the public to parse his words, to find meaning intended and unintended. He's a little too late shutting down the issue, a little too far down the road to July 1, 2010, to pretend like he's a victim of a voracious 24-hour news cycle.

• From woj's 2010 article, 'LeBron trades one drama for another':

"Me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute," James said.

Yes, his team. That's where James' loyalties lie, where together they'll chase the one title he's forever chased: the biggest free agent of his generation.

Together, these narcissists will manufacture a drama that will undermine the conference and NBA Finals, the NBA draft and Fourth of July parades in small towns and big cities across America.

Truth be told, James did something no champion would've ever dared: He quit on his teammates.

The next time you hear James, as the franchise star, say, "This was on me," will be the first. All around James, his yes men never require him to deal in the currency of truth.

 

Woj isn't just mean when it comes to LeBron... he's usually wrong

1 week before 'The Decision' Woj wrote "the Chicago Bulls are still the team to beat, with Cleveland a close second and New Jersey the looming wild card".

A few days before LeBron announced his decision, Woj wrote "he needed the threat of leaving [Cleveland], even if there was never truly the intent.".

Then, after the decision was announced, Woj wrote a column detailing supposedly detailing exactly how LeBron came to choose Miami.

As The New Republic put it:

His reporting on LeBron James was consistently sloppy and poorly sourced, yet Wojnarowski had the audacity to present his piece as the definitive account. With just two quotes from anonymous sources and a history of being wrong about James, it doesn’t deserve to be treated as reliable.

As Ethan Strauss put it:

“If all this was so telegraphed, then Wojnarowski missed multiple Morse

 memos. Now Adrian claims retroactive omniscience? My temples throb at the thought. Insiders should prove their status with a hefty helping of named sources. I give leeway to those with impeccable track records, but Adrian just whiffed on a big one.
	

Four years later, Woj, was wrong again, putting out a piece called 'How Cleveland lost its way, and lost a chance at LeBron's return'

 

Woj is great at breaking news. But remember to take his articles with a grain of salt.

Especially when LeBron is involved.

You mean others are melting harder than you?

[GwillMac6 20,685]

ANYWAYS ok moving on...........

 

[Tiger 8,827]

Was all the Griffin/Lebron talk on the Woj pod? I need to listen to the entire thing for myself. 

I loved Griffin on NBA TV and on NBA Radio on XM. I loved his perspective and he always seemed even keeled. He always said good things about Lebron and never disparaged him, so I'm interested to see how this whole interview went down

[GwillMac6 20,685]

 

[GwillMac6 20,685]

 

[abw0004 10,125]

Melo essentially begging for a place on a team yesterday wasn’t the best look for him in my opinion.

[GwillMac6 20,685]

1 hour ago, abw0004 said:

Melo essentially begging for a place on a team yesterday wasn’t the best look for him in my opinion.

Melo def got dealt a bit of bad luck. If the Knicks had been able to land Kyrie and KD like had been in the cards for a year then they would of added Melo. If Kawhi went to the Lakers they would of only had room for vet minimum players and Melo probaly would of had a significant role. Things did not break for him this off season.

[cole256 17,084]

On 7/27/2019 at 9:19 PM, GwillMac6 said:

Of all of the different versions of LeBron the one of him just being a proud fan and pops watching his son play is already one of his favorites. LETS GO BROOOOOONNNNNNY!!!!!! WOOOOO!!!!!!

 

Don't like him but people having stuff to say about him being his son's fan is pitiful

[aujeff11 6,243]

11 hours ago, cole256 said:

Don't like him but people having stuff to say about him being his son's fan is pitiful

Lebron running onto the court mid game  to chest bump  is little ridiculous though. 99.9% of people will be told to get off the court. 

[cole256 17,084]

3 hours ago, aujeff11 said:

Lebron running onto the court mid game  to chest bump  is little ridiculous though. 99.9% of people will be told to get off the court. 

It was a great play. And also 99.9% isn't going to sponsor an entire team

[aujeff11 6,243]

19 minutes ago, cole256 said:

It was a great play. And also 99.9% isn't going to sponsor an entire team

You’re right 99% wouldn’t.nobody can get away with that in my eyes it’s not just Lebron. He certainly was doing more than just being a fan.