toddc 13,194 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, johnnyAU said: You see Bo is gonna take the HC position himself and then pick Steele as his DC again. Only “Bo Knows”! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sthrndream said: Serious question: Is it not worth a phone call to Urban Meyer to gauge interest in the Auburn job? Even if he is here for only 4 years that would be better than an unknown during that time. Realistically, what kind of a Coach (name wise) could we bring in that we KNOW will compete with Saban, Smart, Fisher etc.? Cristobal and Napier are unproven (SEC) knowns. Urban literally just turned down Texas a week ago. Auburn ain't got **** on Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, McLoofus said: My only guess would be that it's out of respect to Gus. Don't make it look like we were already that far past him. But that is 100% a guess. I understand not announcing a replacement on Sunday out of respect for Gus, but again, if this is a formality, you announce it straight out of the gate. I do not see the wisdom in waiting, at all. 3 minutes ago, McLoofus said: As for the 48 hours of wild and rampant speculation, that's on the fans IMO. Not to mention I'm not sure that these announcements would do anything to curb that. Perhaps announcing a search committee on Sunday wouldn't quell speculation about who would be hired, but I think it would have helped quell speculation about who is making these decisions, and how that process is being handled. I think it would have helped engender confidence in the process. Fans are going to yap all day long about what coach Auburn should hire, but the leaks about fractured leadership, and power struggles between boosters are ridiculous. If Auburn has had a plan - and this is all a part of their plan - someone ought to be fired. I appreciate those of you trying to make all of this look reasonable. 9 minutes ago, McLoofus said: And perhaps the simplest answer is that Oregon getting the surprise nod for the PAC 12 championship is the only reason that they're not making an announcement of a very different sort today. (I realize that runs counter to all the reasoning for a search firm announcement, but it's possible that they could have just said that their services were used afterward.) Basically what I was going to say. Again, I appreciate that you are trying to offer reasonable explanations for what's happening. I can usually see the logical side of things. I don't see it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye67 1,940 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Barnacle said: you are trying to offer reasonable explanations for what's happening. Props for attempting the impossible 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barnacle said: I understand not announcing a replacement on Sunday out of respect for Gus, but again, if this is a formality, you announce it straight out of the gate. I do not see the wisdom in waiting, at all. Perhaps announcing a search committee on Sunday wouldn't quell speculation about who would be hired, but I think it would have helped quell speculation about who is making these decisions, and how that process is being handled. I think it would have helped engender confidence in the process. Fans are going to yap all day long about what coach Auburn should hire, but the leaks about fractured leadership, and power struggles between boosters are ridiculous. If Auburn has had a plan - and this is all a part of their plan - someone ought to be fired. I appreciate those of you trying to make all of this look reasonable. Basically what I was going to say. Again, I appreciate that you are trying to offer reasonable explanations for what's happening. I can usually see the logical side of things. I don't see it here. Can't argue with any of that. While I don't understand those fans who are freaking out about the content of these announcements, you're right that they are legion and that the university/PTB should have taken that into consideration. I had certainly hoped that Greene would make PR a strength for the AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Refuge 6,670 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, autiger88 said: Everybody just breathe pay attention to the next 24 to 48 hours 😎😎😎 I’m seeing a pattern here. Noted. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizhead 618 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Supposedly, MC is out of contention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slot canyon 1,341 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 “One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity, there ain't nothing can beat teamwork.” ― Edward Abbey, The Monkey Wrench Gang. You may substitute committee for teamwork. I don't know why you pay an AD a good salary to be in charge of athletics and then default to a committee when there is a vacancy in one of the major sports. Did we have a committee when we hired a new VB coach or SB coach? The AD should have a list at hand especially when a change can be anticipated. Having a committee is a way to deflect blame if your decision turns out to be flawed. "Hey, I took the advice of the committee". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbeaux38 299 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, chizhead said: Supposedly, MC is out of contention Try being more vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBwins 10,075 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Maybe he breaks it like this 😁 After Oregon wins the game Friday ... Reporter: Mario, you just won the conference title, what are you going to do? Disneyland? MC: Heck no, I'm going to Auburn. War Eagle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddc 13,194 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Barnacle said: I understand not announcing a replacement on Sunday out of respect for Gus, but again, if this is a formality, you announce it straight out of the gate. I do not see the wisdom in waiting, at all. Perhaps announcing a search committee on Sunday wouldn't quell speculation about who would be hired, but I think it would have helped quell speculation about who is making these decisions, and how that process is being handled. I think it would have helped engender confidence in the process. Fans are going to yap all day long about what coach Auburn should hire, but the leaks about fractured leadership, and power struggles between boosters are ridiculous. If Auburn has had a plan - and this is all a part of their plan - someone ought to be fired. I appreciate those of you trying to make all of this look reasonable. Basically what I was going to say. Again, I appreciate that you are trying to offer reasonable explanations for what's happening. I can usually see the logical side of things. I don't see it here. I don’t think those in charge of this hiring give a 🐀 arse about what we think as fans/alumni and are just gonna do what they’re gonna do. Driving me crazy 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUght2win 6,855 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, ToomersRevenge said: You can say that, but barring a miracle from Steele, promoting him and seeing similarly lackluster performance next year would pretty much change apathy to purposeful neglect on many people’s part. And make no mistake it doesn’t look like this year’s recruiting will be stellar so I don’t know what else would change there to give us hope that the team overall will improve depth wise 1. It won't be Steele. 2. We need a CULTURE change. This goes far beyond small potatoes of a few recruits. That's why Gus had to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddc 13,194 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, chizhead said: Supposedly, MC is out of contention Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, chizhead said: Supposedly, MC is out of contention Based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbeaux38 299 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, McLoofus said: Based on? Supposition, duh 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye67 1,940 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, toddc said: I don’t think those in charge of this hiring give a 🐀 arse about what we think as fans/alumni and are just gonna do what they’re gonna do. Driving me crazy 😜 why should they? all we do is support the entire edifice 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUght2win 6,855 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: Urban literally just turned down Texas a week ago. Auburn ain't got **** on Texas. Depends on your value system. Auburn has a better conference and tougher competition than Texas. Not saying Urban is coming, just saying I wish people would stop viewing athletic professions like normal professions. Pro coaches and players want to play the best and be the best, they aren't looking for ease in their occupation. Otherwise, Mahomes would go to the CFL and all the best recruits would play in the Sun Belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, Timbeaux38 said: Supposition, duh 😅 I hear ya, but I hope Chiz can explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizhead 618 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just rumor from another board, but good track record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye67 1,940 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, McLoofus said: I hear ya, but I hope Chiz can explain. if its Little Mook, im going to walk off a cliff, jes sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeek 16,657 Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, chizhead said: Supposedly, MC is out of contention According to? Literally haven't heard this from anyone credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, AUght2win said: Depends on your value system. Auburn has a better conference and tougher competition than Texas. Not saying Urban is coming, just saying I wish people would stop viewing athletic professions like normal professions. Pro coaches and players want to play the best and be the best, they aren't looking for ease in their occupation. Otherwise, Mahomes would go to the CFL and all the best recruits would play in the Sun Belt. I'm talking money bro. If Texas couldn't land him, we sure as hell can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFriction 1,179 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Auburnfan91 said: I like Bill Clark he's a good coach but Napier is better than him. UAB hasn't had a player drafted by the NFL since 2015. They've yet to have a player drafted since they brought the program back in 2017. Napier had 3 NFL draft picks in the 2020 NFL draft. That speaks to recruiting and development. Look around the current SEC HC's previous jobs: Nick Saban - Miami Dolphins, LSU, Michigan State Sam Pittman - UGA O-line coach, Arkansas O-line coach Jimbo Fisher - Florida State Lane Kiffin - Florida Atlantic, USC, Tennessee, Mike Leach - Washington State, Texas Tech Ed Orgeron - Ole Miss Mark Stoops - Florida State DC Jeremy Pruitt - Alabama DC Eli Drinkwitz - 1 year at App State Dan Mullen - Miss State Kirby Smart - Alabama DC Clark Lea - Notre Dame DC Shane Beamer - Oklahoma TE coach Literally half of the current SEC coaches were less proven than Napier is right now when they were hired. Yes, but most of these coaches are not that good. The ones that are were established, well known guys when they were hired. Gus was fired because we people want the bar raised. This hire HAS to be a slam dunk, or it at least has to yield the level of success that Gus had. Napier hasn’t done enough to have that kind of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabby 1,958 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I think the thought of Kevin Steele has made everyone suddenly okay with whomever they hire as long as it isn't Kevin Steele. Could that be the reason for all the Kevin Steele smoke? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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