Freeze off the board?

[Hank2020 3,203]

31 minutes ago, Auburnguy101 said:

Yea, really tired of hearing that as well. Trust me, I’ve made a lot of mistakes. However, what he has done and continues to do is disgusting. It’d be one thing if he had no issues since then, but then he goes and did what he did this past summer, sorry, he has a pattern of behavior that will not change. Also, people like you are really minimizing what he did at Ole Miss. Again, I’ve made mistakes. What he did wasn’t a mistake…

Are you talking about the recruiting violations or the escorts? Just looking for transparency 

[Auburnguy101 325]

4 minutes ago, Hank2020 said:

Are you talking about the recruiting violations or the escorts? Just looking for transparency 

The paying sex for minors issue…

[PigskinPat 2,579]

42 minutes ago, Tigerbelle said:

Adultery many times over is not a mistake. It's a choice.....a decision made every time it takes place. And it hurts other innocent people which is a known fact before following through with it. 

Freeze isn’t my first choice, but I think anyone should be able to find redemption if they truly seek it. I’m not sure if Freeze has or not, but my biggest issue was the extreme he was carrying his disdain to for Freeze by saying he would be completely through with Auburn if we hired Freeze.

[PigskinPat 2,579]

47 minutes ago, Auburnguy101 said:

Yea, really tired of hearing that as well. Trust me, I’ve made a lot of mistakes. However, what he has done and continues to do is disgusting. It’d be one thing if he had no issues since then, but then he goes and did what he did this past summer, sorry, he has a pattern of behavior that will not change. Also, people like you are really minimizing what he did at Ole Miss. Again, I’ve made mistakes. What he did wasn’t a mistake…

Your sin is a whole lot prettier than his sin. Got it.

[auburnatl1 4,935]

27 minutes ago, Auburnguy101 said:

Yea, and I’m ok with that. It sucks, but I just can never root for someone like him and like I said I have my grad school to root for anyways, I’ll be fine…

No point in debating ethics in a forum.  I’ve always maintained that even if you could stomach freeze, kirby and saban would negative recruit him to death.  It’d be Petrino ugly. No other school wants him, it’s living in the distant past, it’s settling. IMO The whole concept is small and depressing.

Edited October 31, 2022 by auburnatl1

[Viper 3,132]

11 minutes ago, Auburnguy101 said:

Freeze ain’t happening. Will never get approval from Dr. Roberts, let it go. Also, hypothetically, do you and others realize how easy it would be to recruit against Auburn if he ever was the coach? You think we suck now, all any coach would have to do is bring up his past and it’s over. Come on, you guys can’t even think logically…

Agreed with this take. Not possible to recruit worse than Harsin, but yeah, it would be difficult to overcome the negative recruiting. 

[Viper 3,132]

1 hour ago, EagleEye67 said:

As long as we aren't BBQing hookers

Or skewering. 

[Hank2020 3,203]

25 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

they all cheat. we cheat. saban cheats. kirby cheats and is more brazen about it. do i want him to cheat? no! but he is an exceptional motivator. and instead of cheating at liberty he appears to be doing more with less. it is the other crap i worry about.and then i i realize he and the dude from bama are not the only ones that have never hired hookers. hell many coaches have been sleeping with students. but the harassment thing i cannot get over. he would need to handle that somehow where he gets that behind him and does nothing to make auburn look bad hiring him. i do believe in second chances but i would keep him on a short leash.

Gotcha. I just had a different take in what you are calling “harassment thing”. What I read was that the individual posted a public tweet publicly putting down Liberty’s AD (for which is completely allowed by twitter). At that point Freeze responded to that tweet (publicly as I understand it) that he supported his AD. If what I read was correct (I have no idea if the information I read was correct or not and am not even aware of how twitter works). Showing public support for his boss (his support was definitely described as “since he has been at Liberty “) is not accurately describe harassment (sexual or otherwise). In transparency though, I do not support him as being hired as our coach as I have stated in my posts in the past. Apologize for my wordy response. 

[Hank2020 3,203]

31 minutes ago, Auburnguy101 said:

The paying sex for minors issue…

I am not aware that was proven that the escorts were for recruits or himself. As I remember the Escorts were contacted when he was traveling. Would seem logical if escorts were for recruits, it would have been in Oxford but not impossible in recruits home area. I would think that would have constituted illegalities rather than just inappropriate use of phone (which is what they actually listed as firing basis at the time).

Edited October 31, 2022 by Hank2020

[aubiefifty 16,798]

1 minute ago, Hank2020 said:

Gotcha. I just had a different take in what you are calling “harassment thing”. What I read was that the individual posted a public tweet publicly putting down Liberty’s AD (for which is completely allowed by twitter). At that point Freeze responded to that tweet (publicly as I understand it) that he supported his AD. If what I read was correct (I have no idea if the information I read was correct or not and am not even aware of how twitter works). Showing public support for his boss (his support was definitely described as “since he has been at Liberty “) is not accurately describe harassment (sexual or otherwise). In transparency though, I do not support him as being hired as our coach as I have stated in my posts in the past. Apologize for my wordy response. 

he told a woman who was sexually assaulted that his friend did not do that. now if he is right then ok. but if he is wrong then it looks real bad and auburn would end up paying for it. for the record freeze is not my guy but i believe in forgiveness and redemption like good christians are supposed to is all. but if they choose him i will support him as long as he keeps his nose clean.

[Hank2020 3,203]

1 minute ago, aubiefifty said:

he told a woman who was sexually assaulted that his friend did not do that. now if he is right then ok. but if he is wrong then it looks real bad and auburn would end up paying for it. for the record freeze is not my guy but i believe in forgiveness and redemption like good christians are supposed to is all. but if they choose him i will support him as long as he keeps his nose clean.

Gotcha . You apparently have more info than I have.

[aubiefifty 16,798]

2 minutes ago, Hank2020 said:

Gotcha . You apparently have more info than I have.

i see a lot of articles when i search for stuff to print. that is my take but i could be wrong because i did not in fact fact check it. and i was shocked it was his AD. i thought it was just a friend.

[Hank2020 3,203]

1 minute ago, aubiefifty said:

i see a lot of articles when i search for stuff to print. that is my take but i could be wrong because i did not in fact fact check it. and i was shocked it was his AD. i thought it was just a friend.

I think Liberty hired him after he resigned from Baylor.

[aubiefifty 16,798]

1 minute ago, Hank2020 said:

I think Liberty hired him after he resigned from Baylor.

i do not remember freeze being at baylor?

[hogmen 38]

here are your choies  

1 deion  - i want to see this  him aga saban would be must see tv   

2 mullan  - the ex fla miss st coach    not my cup of tea  but who knows   

3 guy at kansas  - if he can win in kansas he can do it for u   

[aubiefifty 16,798]

Just now, hogmen said:

here are your choies  

1 deion  - i want to see this  him aga saban would be must see tv   

2 mullan  - the ex fla miss st coach    not my cup of tea  but who knows   

3 guy at kansas  - if he can win in kansas he can do it for u   

mullen can die and burn in hell is all i have to say about that.

[auburnatl1 4,935]

2 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

mullen can die and burn in hell is all i have to say about that.

Aside from the cam stuff, it’s amazing how he went to UF as a big name. Major recruiting advantages there. And totally crashed and burned.

[hogmen 38]

5 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

mullen can die and burn in hell is all i have to say about that.

i agree with u but  your new ad hired him  at miss st     

[jAUSon 2,836]

6 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

mullen can die and burn in hell is all i have to say about that.

Dang

[aubiefifty 16,798]

2 minutes ago, jAUSon said:

Dang

him and even his wife smeared cam who is one of the greatest football players of all time.he now has a taint by his name that will probably never go away. and THEY were the ones offering cam money. screw him.................

[auburnatl1 4,935]

19 minutes ago, jAUSon said:

Dang

After living in Atlanta and overseas for thousands of years, its nice to see a “dang” every now and then😋

Edited October 31, 2022 by auburnatl1

[Hank2020 3,203]

5 minutes ago, auburnatl1 said:

Aside from the cam stuff, it’s amazing how he went to UF as a big name. Major recruiting advantages there. And totally crashed and burned.

He actually did quite well at Florida. Won 10,11, then 8. What got him was the rumor that he hated recruiting so when his recruiting numbers did not climb high enough, they moved on.

[au302 2,669]

With Cohen I think you gotta reset the board a bit. Most of his hires at State were off the grid types. And he is apparently not one to get strong armed at all, so that makes it seem less likely that the typical candidates we hear about who the boosters like are hired.

He could still hire Freeze or Grimes I guess, but it would probably be on his own doing since he doesn't like to get strong armed.

[Auburn02 130]

22 minutes ago, hogmen said:

i agree with u but  your new ad hired him  at miss st     

This is not the first time I’ve seen this referenced. Cohen wasn’t MSU’s AD until 2016, Mullen was HC there 2009-2018. What am I missing?

[Mikey 16,605]

4 hours ago, Viper said:

So Jackson State has him locked in to that 500K lifetime contract?

That's not it. He went to JSU to prove something. Has he proved it yet? To himself?  Nobody else knows the answer to that. One thing we do know is that it's not about money. Nobody, AU included, can offer him as much money as he's already making away from coaching. There will have to be some other motivation but right now his motivation is all about HBCUs.