Biblical Marriage

[homersapien 11,387]

4 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Point the inference judged? 
 

No, I see do see “irony”.

Are you drunk Salty?

[SaltyTiger 7,816]

2 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Are you drunk Salty?

Absolutely not

[SaltyTiger 7,816]

4 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Are you drunk Salty?

But I can see why you asked. 

Edited May 15, 2023 by SaltyTiger

[aubiefifty 16,807]

salty is alright. i have no bad feelings for him. he is truthful when many on his side are not. and with all the crap going on in the world i can see why someone might drink or smoke one. i get it.

[jj3jordan 2,056]

3 hours ago, homersapien said:

 

Perhaps you didn't read the post it was in response to:

Which implies such relationships were nonexistent them.

Nope. Wrong again homey.

The OP claimed the depicted relationships were acceptable Biblically.  I merely pointed out that no same sex relationships are depicted.  This should clear things up for you.  I never implied same sex relationships were nonexistent. They should have been nonexistent but they were not. 

[SaltyTiger 7,816]

10 hours ago, homersapien said:

Are you drunk Salty?

Why are you deflecting by questioning my sobriety?

[homersapien 11,387]

10 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

But I can see why you asked. 

Well I certainly hope it's not anything worse.

[aubiefifty 16,807]

7 hours ago, jj3jordan said:

Nope. Wrong again homey.

The OP claimed the depicted relationships were acceptable Biblically.  I merely pointed out that no same sex relationships are depicted.  This should clear things up for you.  I never implied same sex relationships were nonexistent. They should have been nonexistent but they were not. 

but but but you love them anyway right JJ? i mean god made us all so pardon me if i believe god does not care who you love.

[homersapien 11,387]

7 hours ago, jj3jordan said:

Nope. Wrong again homey.

The OP claimed the depicted relationships were acceptable Biblically.  I merely pointed out that no same sex relationships are depicted.  This should clear things up for you.  I never implied same sex relationships were nonexistent. They should have been nonexistent but they were not. 

Thanks for clearing that up.  (Sorry for my confusion, but then, there wasn't much to go on.)

So, what do you make of their omission?  Any significance?

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2023 by homersapien

[homersapien 11,387]

7 hours ago, jj3jordan said:

Nope. Wrong again homey.

The OP claimed the depicted relationships were acceptable Biblically.  I merely pointed out that no same sex relationships are depicted.  This should clear things up for you.  I never implied same sex relationships were nonexistent. They should have been nonexistent but they were not. 

What do you mean by that?

(I am hesitant to make any more inferences. )

[SaltyTiger 7,816]

17 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Well I certainly hope it's not anything worse.

Well there was an innocent golf cart ride late yesterday. A few bonus beers in the cooler needed emptying…… Mrs Salty was driving. Rode hiking trails, saw several fox squirrels and a huge rat snake.

[homersapien 11,387]

Just now, SaltyTiger said:

Well there was an innocent golf cart ride late yesterday. A few bonus beers in the cooler needed emptying…… Mrs Salty was driving. Rode hiking trails, saw several fox squirrels and a huge rat snake.

Seems like (black) rat snakes have been prolific this year.  We've got at least two I keep seeing around the house. 

[SaltyTiger 7,816]

2 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Seems like (black) rat snakes have been prolific this year.  We've got at least two I keep seeing around the house. 

That can be a good thing.

[aubiefifty 16,807]

23 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Well there was an innocent golf cart ride late yesterday. A few bonus beers in the cooler needed emptying…… Mrs Salty was driving. Rode hiking trails, saw several fox squirrels and a huge rat snake.

did the rat snake look like trump?

 

[AuCivilEng1 11,012]

The Bible is a book written by human beings, with zero oversight. The sooner people realize that, the better we can become as a species on this planet.

It would serve people better to make decisions about acceptance, based on facts and their real feelings. Do you really think that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to get married, if an ordained minister or priest is ok marrying them? Or do you just think that its not ok, because you inferred that it was wrong based on the words some guy wrote in a book, a few thousand years ago. when people thought it was morally acceptable to own human beings as property? 

There are a lot of morally bankrupt people on this planet who simply just don't want to see people that aren't like them have the same quality of life. Some call them a**holes.  I call them conservatives. But, nonetheless there are also a lot of people who are simply just following their book blindly, who really don't want to see other people suffer. I can't wait until those people grow a sack and stand up for themselves and their fellow people against the people who make this world a worse place to live. 

Long story short, people need to stop using religious texts to DECIDE anything. 

[creed 1,640]

13 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

The Bible is a book written by human beings, with zero oversight. The sooner people realize that, the better we can become as a species on this planet.

It would serve people better to make decisions about acceptance, based on facts and their real feelings. Do you really think that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to get married, if an ordained minister or priest is ok marrying them? Or do you just think that its not ok, because you inferred that it was wrong based on the words some guy wrote in a book, a few thousand years ago. when people thought it was morally acceptable to own human beings as property? 

There are a lot of morally bankrupt people on this planet who simply just don't want to see people that aren't like them have the same quality of life. Some call them a**holes.  I call them conservatives. But, nonetheless there are also a lot of people who are simply just following their book blindly, who really don't want to see other people suffer. I can't wait until those people grow a sack and stand up for themselves and their fellow people against the people who make this world a worse place to live. 

Long story short, people need to stop using religious texts to DECIDE anything. 

Is it okay for a person to not agree with it, keep their mouth shut and move on? Or do they have to specifically announce they agree with it?

 

[AuCivilEng1 11,012]

21 minutes ago, creed said:

Is it okay for a person to not agree with it, keep their mouth shut and move on? Or do they have to specifically announce they agree with it?

 

I mean, do they have to take every opportunity to announce that they don't agree with it?

If you break this specific topic down to its simplest ideas, there is a side that it openly and outspokenly standing up for humans to have equal rights and the same opportunities in life and there is a side who is openly and outspokenly trying to devalue others and take away their rights and opportunities. Which one would you say is the "good guy" or on the right side of history? Which one does the world need more of and which one does the world need less of?

Edited May 15, 2023 by AuCivilEng1

[creed 1,640]

17 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

I mean, do they have to take every opportunity to announce that they don't agree with it?

If you break this specific topic down to its simplest ideas, there is a side that it openly and outspokenly standing up for humans to have equal rights and the same opportunities in life and there is a side who is openly and outspokenly trying to devalue others and take away their rights and opportunities. Which one would you say is the "good guy" or on the right side of history? Which one does the world need more of and which one does the world need less of?

I see and agree your points but you didn’t answer my question. 

[AuCivilEng1 11,012]

1 hour ago, creed said:

I see and agree your points but you didn’t answer my question. 

Are you asking if it's ok for people to just live their life and quietly not agree with things? I don't personally see anything wrong with being quiet and a live and let live type, as opposed to an activist. 

But people like that could still be voting with a theocratic mindset and ultimately making things worse for gays, minorities, etc, based on what a very old book, written by other humans tells them is right and wrong. There is no reason to think it is wrong to be in love with someone of the same sex, other than what The Bible tells you. If sex was simply about reproduction, then Christians would treat it as such (No oral, foreplay, etc). But the vast majority don't. So wtf  is the difference, as long as it isn't directly affecting you? 

But there lies the big issue, right? People don't vote for conservatives anymore, based on their fiscal ideals. They have none. They spend just a frivolously as liberals. Conservatives are even in support of fiscally socialist policies (for the military and corporations).  People nowadays vote based on social issues. And anyone who has voted in a person like Marjorie Taylor Green or Matt Gaetz, because they view them as more "Christian" has contributed to other people's in the country's lives being of less quality. You hold some responsibility for that, no matter how quiet you are. 

Edited May 15, 2023 by AuCivilEng1

[KansasTiger 3,248]

Oh God. I've been waiting and searching for WR news for so long I wound up here.

[homersapien 11,387]

3 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

That can be a good thing.

It's a great thing.  Rodents have caused me a lot of expenses over the years.

[Mims44 1,872]

On 5/13/2023 at 8:54 PM, AURex said:

 

I get a laugh out of the fanatically righteous conservatives who thump their Bible and proclaim that marriage is between one man and one woman. Period. The End!  Obviously, their knowledge of the bible is deficient. Here are the acceptable forms of marriage according to the bible.

 

Unless I'm missing something... those are all from the Pentateuch. Christians don't follow the old laws or ways. They follow Christ (Hence the word 'Christian')

So you are really pissy with the Jewish people I guess? You know most of them don't follow those laws anymore right? Only some very small groups still keep to them.

[Mims44 1,872]

3 hours ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

The Bible is a book written by human beings, with zero oversight. The sooner people realize that, the better we can become as a species on this planet.

It would serve people better to make decisions about acceptance, based on facts and their real feelings. Do you really think that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to get married, if an ordained minister or priest is ok marrying them? Or do you just think that its not ok, because you inferred that it was wrong based on the words some guy wrote in a book, a few thousand years ago. when people thought it was morally acceptable to own human beings as property? 

There are a lot of morally bankrupt people on this planet who simply just don't want to see people that aren't like them have the same quality of life. Some call them a**holes.  I call them conservatives. But, nonetheless there are also a lot of people who are simply just following their book blindly, who really don't want to see other people suffer. I can't wait until those people grow a sack and stand up for themselves and their fellow people against the people who make this world a worse place to live. 

Long story short, people need to stop using religious texts to DECIDE anything. 

This seems a very juvenile way of looking at this;

If we just took away the Bible guys everything would be cool, it's the Bible that causes people to hate others irrationally, be greedy, power hungry, or just straight up mean. It's def not just the way our species is.  

 

And to your last sentence, people use EVERYTHING to form their personal philosophies. Without even realizing it. Millions have had their philosophical views formed or altered by the likes of Harry Potter and Luke Skywalker. But Jesus is where you draw the line huh?

lol .... lmao even.

[CoffeeTiger 5,125]

20 minutes ago, Mims44 said:

 

 

And to your last sentence, people use EVERYTHING to form their personal philosophies. Without even realizing it. Millions have had their philosophical views formed or altered by the likes of Harry Potter and Luke Skywalker. But Jesus is where you draw the line huh?

lol .... lmao even.

 

The obvious difference being that the Bible/almost all Religions were specifically created to guide peoples thoughts and philosophies and tell people what to believe and what to do in life. 

Harry Potter, Star Wars, and other entertainment media were not created with the intention or purpose of doing any of that.

[Mims44 1,872]

1 minute ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

The obvious difference being that the Bible/almost all Religions were specifically created to guide peoples thoughts and philosophies and tell people what to believe and what to do in life. 

Harry Potter, Star Wars, and other entertainment media were not created with the intention or purpose of doing any of that.

Does intent matter all that much?

Would Atlas Shrugged not be what it is today if Ayn Rand meant for it to be or not be used philosophically? 

Also it's getting a bit away from what the person I replied to stated. He stated that people need to stop using religious texts to DECIDE anything. I'm merely pointing out people use all types of texts, movies, music to form their world views and how they react to those around them, the crux of 'decision making'.