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8 minutes ago, Samau said:

Disagree, I have been following recruiting for over 40 years. If a coach and team are struggling hot seat rumors get started and it does have an impact even if the coach does not get fired.

How often does hot seat talk start before December of a coach's first season? Other than among the psycho fringe of the fanbase, I mean. 

 

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12 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

How often does hot seat talk start before December of a coach's first season? Other than among the psycho fringe of the fanbase, I mean. 

 

Usually it will not start until year 2 or even 3 by the media. But  coaches from other schools will start telling recruits almost immediately. I know for a fact that Gus knows it was used against him the last couple of years and cost him some players. FSU is a major powerhouse that expects to be competing for the ACC and National Championship every year. If FSU loses several games every other programs including Auburn will be telling recruits there is a good chance a coaching change will occur while you are playing football at Florida State (regardless if it happens or not).

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21 minutes ago, AUDevil said:

"Hey Derick, you know half the fan base is already calling for the staff to be fired...it's all over Twitter and Facebook. Check it out, they're not happy at the lack of preparation and sloppy play.  Heck, they want Jimbo back.  He might build something, but that's a mighty, mighty big IF...it's a huge gamble that he even gets enough time to do that.  However, you can help me build something greater right here, right now at Auburn."

Exactly 

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27 minutes ago, AUDevil said:

"Hey Derick, you know half the fan base is already calling for the staff to be fired...it's all over Twitter and Facebook. Check it out, they're not happy at the lack of preparation and sloppy play.  Heck, they want Jimbo back.  He might build something, but that's a mighty, mighty big IF...it's a huge gamble that he even gets enough time to do that.  However, you can help me build something greater right here, right now at Auburn."

 

8 minutes ago, Samau said:

Usually it will not start until year 2 or even 3 by the media. But  coaches from other schools will start telling recruits almost immediately. I know for a fact that Gus knows it was used against him the last couple of years and cost him some players. FSU is a major powerhouse that expects to be competing for the ACC and National Championship every year. If FSU loses several games every other programs including Auburn will be telling recruits there is a good chance a coaching change will occur while you are playing football at Florida State (regardless if it happens or not).

Gus has been here since 2013 and his job really was in jeopardy last year. And rival coaches can say that about almost any new coach, even if he's winning. What we're saying is that a new coach has a counter-punch that will appeal more strongly to a certain kind of kid. Wanya Morris is one of those kids. So were several of the kids who signed with Gus despite hearing a much more legitimate negative pitch against Auburn. And Hall might be one of those kids, too. 

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2 hours ago, McLoofus said:

 

Gus has been here since 2013 and his job really was in jeopardy last year. And rival coaches can say that about almost any new coach, even if he's winning. What we're saying is that a new coach has a counter-punch that will appeal more strongly to a certain kind of kid. Wanya Morris is one of those kids. So were several of the kids who signed with Gus despite hearing a much more legitimate negative pitch against Auburn. And Hall might be one of those kids, too. 

 

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3 hours ago, Samau said:

Disagree, I have been following recruiting for over 40 years. If a coach and team are struggling hot seat rumors get started and it does have an impact even if the coach does not get fired.

Well ranking facts diasagrre with your opinion. There have been many average to subpar seasons for upper tier P5 schools over the years who had top 10-12 classes without a major coaching change. Most notable recent example is Butch Jones at Tennessee.

 Recruiting is about relationships and unless there’s a major coaching change or the head coach is really on the hot seat then sam  season record rarely has an effect on the outcome of a class. It’s not just me saying this either. People who get paid to cover recruiting for the most part have said the same thing. I appreciate you Sam but I’m tired of arguing this with you off and on over the past few years. 

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6 hours ago, ellitor said:

Well ranking facts diasagrre with your opinion. There have been many average to subpar seasons for upper tier P5 schools over the years who had top 10-12 classes without a major coaching change. Most notable recent example is Butch Jones at Tennessee.

 Recruiting is about relationships and unless there’s a major coaching change or the head coach is really on the hot seat then sam  season record rarely has an effect on the outcome of a class. It’s not just me saying this either. People who get paid to cover recruiting for the most part have said the same thing. I appreciate you Sam but I’m tired of arguing this with you off and on over the past few years. 

Ellitor, I think you must have me confused with someone else? I have only been a member for 1 year and I do not remember arguing with you about anything?  I usually agree with your posts. I guess we will just agree to disagree about this. But if I’ve upset you I will glad to not post anymore.

 

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1 hour ago, Samau said:

Ellitor, I think you must have me confused with someone else? I have only been a member for 1 year and I do not remember arguing with you about anything?  I usually agree with your posts. I guess we will just agree to disagree about this. But if I’ve upset you I will glad to not post anymore.

 

Don't... Keep posting.

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12 hours ago, Samau said:

Ellitor, I think you must have me confused with someone else? I have only been a member for 1 year and I do not remember arguing with you about anything?  I usually agree with your posts. I guess we will just agree to disagree about this. But if I’ve upset you I will glad to not post anymore.

 

I believe E confused you with somebody else. Please keep posting. I believe you are wrong when looked across the spectrum of recruiting which is what E is saying but for one individual player it could have an affect as each kid is unique and why he chooses a school could be based on anything and might not make sense to most of us.  Some kids want to get as far away from home as possible, A girl friend or just a good friend is going to that school, The belief that school will get them to the next level, mom and dad told them to go to that school, college major, a whim, etc.

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14 hours ago, Samau said:

Ellitor, I think you must have me confused with someone else? I have only been a member for 1 year and I do not remember arguing with you about anything?  I usually agree with your posts. I guess we will just agree to disagree about this. But if I’ve upset you I will glad to not post anymore.

 

13 hours ago, bigbird said:

Don't... Keep posting.

This^^^^. It's not worth you leaving just because we disagree on 1 thing. You're a good poster & a valued member to the board. I would hate to see you leave.

And years was the wrong word. Months is more like it but we have definitely volleyed the topic before. Regardless it's water under the bridge. And FTR you did not come close to upsetting. You're gucci!

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any timeline on when Hall wants to commit?    If he is serious about engineering and he is considering Auburn and Miss St, this is a no brainer......time to commit and focus on his senior season.

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1 minute ago, Beaker said:

any timeline on when Hall wants to commit?

Not anymore. Was Summer but no timeline now. FSU & Miss St has made things interesting.

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5 minutes ago, Samau said:

Thanks Ellitor AuburnnnTexas and Big Bird.  I will keep posting. I enjoy the board. War Eagle!

Most importantly. I apologize for offending & upsetting you.

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11 minutes ago, ellitor said:

Most importantly....Golf sucks

FIFY

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11 minutes ago, ellitor said:

Most importantly. I apologize for offending & upsetting you.

He will learn, like the rest of us, that you are to the point and usually pretty accurate. When you miss on something you man up and admit it! Keep posting @Samau

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Just now, bigbird said:

It's ALWAYS relevant

sooo you're saying you're fixated on Golf. Well...

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1 hour ago, ellitor said:

Most importantly. I apologize for offending & upsetting you.

No problem I wasn’t upset actually  I thought I made you upset. Thanks no apologies needed. You do a great job!

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13 hours ago, ellitor said:

Most importantly. I apologize for offending & upsetting you.

What is this?

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