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DOJ won't prosecute Ferguson police officer Wilson. This makes two pursuts they have wasted taxpayer money on. Pure politics IMHO.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/04/doj-will-not-prosecute-former-ferguson-police-officer-darren-wilson/

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DOJ won't prosecute Ferguson police officer Wilson. This makes two pursuts they have wasted taxpayer money on. Pure politics IMHO.

http://www.foxnews.c...-darren-wilson/

I think the investigation was worth it. It's good to show some folks that an entity that, if it leans in any direction, would lean toward finding a violation rather than clearing him. I don't think anyone could credibly argue the DOJ would naturally side with Wilson. And this is key:

...Many witnesses said Mr. Brown had his hands up in surrender when he died, leading to nationwide protest chants of “Hands up, don’t shoot.”

But federal agents and civil rights prosecutors rejected that story, just as a state grand jury did in November. The Justice Department said forensic evidence and other witnesses backed up the account of Officer Wilson, who said Mr. Brown fought with him, reached for his gun, then charged at him. He told investigators that he feared for his life.

The report found that witnesses who claimed that Mr. Brown was surrendering were not credible. “Some of those accounts are inaccurate because they are inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence; some of those accounts are materially inconsistent with that witnesses’ own prior statements with no explanation,” it said.

“Although some witnesses state that Brown held his hands up at shoulder level with his palms facing outward for a brief moment, these same witnesses describe Brown then dropping his hands and ‘charging’ at Wilson,” it added.

“Those witness accounts stating that Brown never moved back toward Wilson could not be relied upon in a prosecution because their accounts cannot be reconciled with the DNA bloodstain evidence and other credible witness accounts.”...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/05/us/darren-wilson-is-cleared-of-rights-violations-in-ferguson-shooting.html

In other words, the "hands up, don't shoot" mantra was BS. And it wasn't because the DA in Ferguson wasn't trustworthy, or tilted things toward the police, or racism. It's because it isn't true. It never was true. It was a legend.

Does this mean there aren't real problems with the Ferguson Police Dept in how it handles the black population there? No. But it does mean that you don't get to take that frustration out on an individual officer just trying to do his job and defend himself. It's never a wise idea to pick a bad case to push a good issue.

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Your tax $$$ at work.......

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DOJ won't prosecute Ferguson police officer Wilson. This makes two pursuts they have wasted taxpayer money on. Pure politics IMHO.

http://www.foxnews.c...-darren-wilson/

I think the investigation was worth it. It's good to show some folks that an entity that, if it leans in any direction, would lean toward finding a violation rather than clearing him. I don't think anyone could credibly argue the DOJ would naturally side with Wilson. And this is key:

...Many witnesses said Mr. Brown had his hands up in surrender when he died, leading to nationwide protest chants of “Hands up, don’t shoot.”

But federal agents and civil rights prosecutors rejected that story, just as a state grand jury did in November. The Justice Department said forensic evidence and other witnesses backed up the account of Officer Wilson, who said Mr. Brown fought with him, reached for his gun, then charged at him. He told investigators that he feared for his life.

The report found that witnesses who claimed that Mr. Brown was surrendering were not credible. “Some of those accounts are inaccurate because they are inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence; some of those accounts are materially inconsistent with that witnesses’ own prior statements with no explanation,” it said.

“Although some witnesses state that Brown held his hands up at shoulder level with his palms facing outward for a brief moment, these same witnesses describe Brown then dropping his hands and ‘charging’ at Wilson,” it added.

“Those witness accounts stating that Brown never moved back toward Wilson could not be relied upon in a prosecution because their accounts cannot be reconciled with the DNA bloodstain evidence and other credible witness accounts.”...

http://www.nytimes.c...n-shooting.html

In other words, the "hands up, don't shoot" mantra was BS. And it wasn't because the DA in Ferguson wasn't trustworthy, or tilted things toward the police, or racism. It's because it isn't true. It never was true. It was a legend.

Does this mean there aren't real problems with the Ferguson Police Dept in how it handles the black population there? No. But it does mean that you don't get to take that frustration out on an individual officer just trying to do his job and defend himself. It's never a wise idea to pick a bad case to push a good issue.

Titan, i pray you do not get overwhelmed in the "You are a Racist" blowback.

Some of these people have their psyche and livelihood invested in profiting from this exact stuff.

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The DOJ report indicates some troubling numbers and trends that show there is a problem with how police in that area handle the black community. The Michael Brown case was just a terrible instance to use to highlight the problems. You want to make the case for excessive use of force by police, particularly when dealing with black people? Point to Eric Garner, not Michael Brown.

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The "conservatives" are sure to be disappointed. This sound, and rational report by DoJ shows they arent the organization the usuals have been crowing about here since last summer.

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DOJ won't prosecute Ferguson police officer Wilson. This makes two pursuts they have wasted taxpayer money on. Pure politics IMHO.

http://www.foxnews.c...-darren-wilson/

I would not call it wasted. Pursuing truth and justice is not a waste. Had justice not been done, then you could call it wasted money.

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Holder was determined to find SOMETHING.

No matter what.

Yet they completely agreed with the grand jury's assessment of Ofc. Wilson's actions.

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Once again, Obama and Holder prematurely got involved in a matter of local law enforcement. They both suck at the jobs they're actually supposed to be doing so they should practice a little restraint as opposed to persistently meddling in matters that really aren't their responsibility by trying to make them into something they're not.

As far as agreeing with the Grand Jury's assessment of Ofc Wilson's actions, what other choice did they have? These people see racism when there is none. I guess thats what happens when Al Sharpton is your chief liaison on race relations.

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Once again, Obama and Holder prematurely got involved in a matter of local law enforcement. They both suck at the jobs they're actually supposed to be doing so they should practice a little restraint as opposed to persistently meddling in matters that really aren't their responsibility by trying to make them into something they're not.

As far as agreeing with the Grand Jury's assessment of Ofc Wilson's actions, what other choice did they have? These people see racism when there is none. I guess thats what happens when Al Sharpton is your chief liaison on race relations.

Obama sux. You forgot, Libtards are dumb.

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The DOJ report indicates some troubling numbers and trends that show there is a problem with how police in that area handle the black community. The Michael Brown case was just a terrible instance to use to highlight the problems. You want to make the case for excessive use of force by police, particularly when dealing with black people? Point to Eric Garner, not Michael Brown.

This. I also believe the numbers to be troubling to say the least in terms of the police in the area.

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The "conservatives" are sure to be disappointed. This sound, and rational report by DoJ shows they arent the organization the usuals have been crowing about here since last summer.

The DoJ did state that the Ferguson police department was targeting blacks for traffic stops etc and using tickets as a city revenue source.

Ferguson will resolve this by having a black mayor and majority black city council soon. The police department may also be majority black soon.

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The "conservatives" are sure to be disappointed. This sound, and rational report by DoJ shows they arent the organization the usuals have been crowing about here since last summer.

The DoJ did state that the Ferguson police department was targeting blacks for traffic stops etc and using tickets as a city revenue source.

Ferguson will resolve this by having a black mayor and majority black city council soon. The police department may also be majority black soon.

Are you implying that the DOJ will facilitate that outcome?

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Holder was determined to find SOMETHING.

No matter what.

Yet they completely agreed with the grand jury's assessment of Ofc. Wilson's actions.

Raptor contradicts himself.

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True that the DOJ agreed with the grand jury's findings. Would they have even pursued a follow up unless race was involved?

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The DOJ report indicates some troubling numbers and trends that show there is a problem with how police in that area handle the black community. The Michael Brown case was just a terrible instance to use to highlight the problems. You want to make the case for excessive use of force by police, particularly when dealing with black people? Point to Eric Garner, not Michael Brown.

This. I also believe the numbers to be troubling to say the least in terms of the police in the area.

if Michael brown is representative of the "black community" in ferguson, then they are probably gonna have problems with how the police handle them. No doubt. Just get body cams and nip in in the bud like the Madison PD.
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Once again, Obama and Holder prematurely got involved in a matter of local law enforcement. They both suck at the jobs they're actually supposed to be doing so they should practice a little restraint as opposed to persistently meddling in matters that really aren't their responsibility by trying to make them into something they're not.

As far as agreeing with the Grand Jury's assessment of Ofc Wilson's actions, what other choice did they have? These people see racism when there is none. I guess thats what happens when Al Sharpton is your chief liaison on race relations.

Very well stated. That sums it up. Nothing to be added...
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Here is a rundown of these e-mails, with all descriptions taken directly from the Justice Department’s report:

  • November 2008: An e-mail said President Obama would not be president for very long because “what black man holds a steady job for four years.”
  • March 2010: An e-mail mocked African Americans through a story involving child support. One line from the e-mail read: “I be so glad that dis be my last child support payment! Month after month, year after year, all dose payments!”
  • April 2011: An e-mail depicted Obama as a chimpanzee.
  • May 2011: An e-mail said: “An African-American woman in New Orleans was admitted into the hospital for a pregnancy termination. Two weeks later she received a check for $5,000. She phoned the hospital to ask who it was from. The hospital said, ‘Crimestoppers.’”
  • June 2011: An e-mail described a man seeking to obtain “welfare” for his dogs because they are “mixed in color, unemployed, lazy, can’t speak English and have no frigging clue who their Daddies are.”
  • October 2011: An e-mail included a photo of a group of bare-chested women dancing, seemingly in Africa, with the caption, “Michelle Obama’s High School Reunion.”
  • December 2011: An e-mail included jokes that are based on offensive stereotypes about Muslims.

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the Department of Justice report on racism in Ferguson and finding evidence that the local government saw its inhabitants, who were mostly African Americans as a cash cow to be milked through fines and tickets. Or, perhaps more precisely, bled through fines and tickets. When the police chief reported that revenue from fines “beat our next biggest month in the last four years,” the city manager replied, “Wonderful!” As Coates suggests, this is a kind of legalized plunder. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/03/04/fergusons-government-was-run-like-a-racket/

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So THAT is the reason for wasting time and tax $$$.......

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So THAT is the reason for wasting time and tax $$$.......

Yeah let's keep those black folks down huh? What a waste of money. Sarc off. I bet if I got a look at your email inbox I'd find some just like the ones mentioned above.
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