DAG 34,003 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 So now we know, if that article is true, there really was no plan. Again a very reactive bunch. By Sunday morning the guy we wanted should been agreeing to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBourne 425 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 When the PAC12 said there would be no season he had 7 players move on to prepare for the NFL. How many teams can lose seven starters and not have issues? I'm not worried about this season for him at all. If he takes the AU job I'm behind him 100%. Same for Billy Napier or Tony Elliot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasttimes 356 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, GAAubie said: We are on the same page, but many wanted anyone but Gus. When you turned down the $1000 and take the curtain, you may get the whammy. im one of those people. gus was good....great in a lot of ways. he is also deficient in some ways. unfortunately, while the deficiencies may have been fewer, they were big enough to over shadow the good/great things he did. it was time for a change. one can't let the fear of striking out (on a new hire) deter from making a needed change. That said, firing gus to hire the current DC isn't exactly "swinging and striking out". just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeleagle 2,945 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, ellitor said: Leaving this here... You had to go and muddy the muddy waters even more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,696 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, DAG said: So now we know, if that article is true, there really was no plan. Again a very reactive bunch. By Sunday morning the guy we wanted should been agreeing to come here. Is ANYONE really suprised? JABA is overused I agree but it is a real actual thing for a reason! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,899 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, GwillMac6 said: And? Saban lost to Gus last year. What is your point? We need a elite recruiter. He fits the bill. That is why people want him. What is so hard to get? He also has to know how to coach. We can’t forget that part as well. Not one person has talked about his coaching acumen. Most people speak on his recruiting. I want to hear the same level of enthusiasm about his coaching. I would be excited if he came but I understand the questions others have about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leglessdan 1,934 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, tbone4jc said: He got fired from FIU because of his last 2 years . CGC won us a NC but that did not make him a good coach. MC's record this year? And again ,its the PAC 12, who else was relevant? Now you're just being thick headed about it. It's been explained NUMEROUS times why some have MC on the top and what he could bring to the table. You're just arguing with air at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoetTiger 1,899 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Get Lane Kiffin on the phone. His offense and Steele’s defense. I know I am in the minority but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,003 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, GwillMac6 said: Is ANYONE really suprised? JABA is overused I agree but it is a real actual thing for a reason! lol I am a little taken aback. 1). I honestly didn't think they would fire this guy. When they did, I for sure thought okay they have their guy ready to go... Now, I am hearing about CKS. Yeah something is not right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ryan Sanders said: I would assume most of us only supported removing Malzahn if we were going to replace him with something much better. Jumping into the fire would be wrong, but that doesn't mean jumping out of the frying pan wasn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewzums343 76 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Coaching candidate tiers Home run hire: Mario Cristobal Urban Meyer Brent Venables Okay hire- not much better than gus Hugh Freeze Tom Allen Steve Sarkisian Bad hire- boo we want a leader not a loser. Kevin steele Bill Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker 2,457 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Forgive me - I can't read the whole thread as I have been in Auburn at my son's graduation and commissioning. Or maybe I was meeting with Allen and helping him with his duties - you decide. My quick take: the money people didn't pony up ($11mio on Sunday) without knowing who they are getting. Too much money on the table. This isn't $2-3 mio like 10-15 yrs ago. I suspect they want to announce today, tonight or tomorrow to keep the class together. I believe Steele called all the commitments last night. Steele seems like a pro and will do whatever is asked. This is a career maker or ender for Greene and he knows it. Let's see if he can close the deal. The money guys would not pay $11 mio to swap Gus for an unknown entity or a lateral kind of move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,696 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, PoetTiger said: He also has to know how to coach. We can’t forget that part as well. Not one person has talked about his coaching acumen. Most people speak on his recruiting. I want to hear the same level of enthusiasm about his coaching. I would be excited if he came but I understand the questions others have about him. We have gone the offensive "genius"/great playcaller and supposedly good coach route for Head Coach. Let's go the elite recruiter route. See how it plays out. At worst he is Ron Zook and we have some serious talent waiting on the next coach. I can live with taking that shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone4jc 2,241 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, GwillMac6 said: And? Saban lost to Gus last year. What is your point? We need a elite recruiter. He fits the bill. That is why people want him. What is so hard to get? That's not the point. MC is not the answer. He won the PAC-12 bit who else was good thelat year? He beat Wisconsin, not Ohio St, Clemson, Alabama or even Auburn. Y'all are overhyped about a mediocre coach who can recruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,003 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, PoetTiger said: Get Lane Kiffin on the phone. His offense and Steele’s defense. I know I am in the minority but I like it. At this point If Lane Kiffen wants to be the HC and keep Steele as AHC/DC. I would take it ahhhh Talk me off the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishepa 1,907 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 It's a shame there's not a recent college coach that just won a college NC and just failed miserably in the NFL available. We couldn't be that lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,113 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 FWIW as of 15 minutes ago JGT still doesn't think Steele is the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,696 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Dude on the bunker who was right about Gus being fired before anyone else (early last week) that I saw said Steele is Harbert's guy. I tend to believe him. A very Raymond Harbert thing to do. Why does he hate Auburn so much? lmao. But seriously. HE IS SO BAD AT THIS like others have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeek 16,660 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 https://rss.com/podcasts/barningknight/105173/ Quick podcast covering the coaching candidates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,003 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, ellitor said: FWIW as of 15 minutes ago JGT still doesn't think Steele is the guy. Okay coming off my melt and edge now. Sorry you had to be gaslighted, E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBourne 425 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I disagree. MC has a right to inform his current players in person if he makes that choice. Auburn's responsibility was to get him an offer. Gus was fired yesterday. MC has an offer (allegedly). 5 minutes ago, DAG said: So now we know, if that article is true, there really was no plan. Again a very reactive bunch. By Sunday morning the guy we wanted should been agreeing to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixtosanders94 2,180 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, AuburnTiger4Life said: He’s referring to his job security at Virginia Tech. Definitely not an Auburn HC candidate Thanks for helping me out on this. I thought that would be a stupid candidate but then again when it comes to our Tigers and coaches you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,696 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, tbone4jc said: That's not the point. MC is not the answer. He won the PAC-12 bit who else was good thelat year? He beat Wisconsin, not Ohio St, Clemson, Alabama or even Auburn. Y'all are overhyped about a mediocre coach who can recruit. This is the SEC recruiting is the most important trait and skill you need in this conference. YOU HAVE to be able to be a lights out recruiter. Look at Kirby. meh coach. One of the best recruiters. Cristobal is in that class. He is a top 5 recruiting head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,003 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, AUBourne said: I disagree. MC has a right to inform his current players in person if he makes that choice. Auburn's responsibility was to get him an offer. Gus was fired yesterday. MC has an offer (allegedly). Disagreement is fine. Like I said, I don't think this guy is worth a bidding war. Do your due diligence , but if I am Auburn, I am sticking to my guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,113 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, drewzums343 said: Bad hire- boo we want a leader not a loser. Bill Clark LMAO. Really bad take. Clark may be a bad hire but to this point the man has never been a loser at any of his HC stops. His name hasn't even come up as a legit candidate so I'm not sure why you went out of your way to make a dig at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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