DAG 33,997 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, au302 said: That's true. It's very possible. I would think we want to get it out quickly though for obvious reasons. I agree it will be a Harsin/Boise guy. Melt will be glorious but that was a good and fun offense they had out there What obvious reasons ? Please don’t say recruiting . The recruits will know before anybody . Who will know last will be the fans and rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au302 2,669 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, DAG said: What obvious reasons ? Please don’t say recruiting . The recruits will know before anybody . Who will know last will be the fans and rightfully so. I don't see any benefit in keeping it quiet if the guy is hired, but I may be wrong. I'm sure the commits and a lot of recruits know. Other recruits, HS coaches, momentum in general from the hire. Seems like there's no benefit to keep it under wraps, but maybe I'm wrong. He needs to take his time and get the best guy though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMassie11 1,610 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, DAG said: What obvious reasons ? Please don’t say recruiting . The recruits will know before anybody . Who will know last will be the fans and rightfully so. And with yesterday being so abrupt there’s a 9/10 chance the guy is already in place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,997 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, au302 said: I don't see any benefit in keeping it quiet if the guy is hired, but I may be wrong. I'm sure the commits and a lot of recruits know. Other recruits, HS coaches, momentum in general from the hire. Seems like there's no benefit to keep it under wraps, but maybe I'm wrong. He needs to take his time and get the best guy though There is no benefit to the fan. If it has been the WR coach all along and the current players know and the he is out recruiting today as the OC, there isn’t anything loss . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,997 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Just now, JMassie11 said: And with yesterday being so abrupt there’s a 9/10 chance the guy is already in place Right it has been only 24 hour period that the media has know but I am sure CBH has had a plan all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,456 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, 1716AU said: is that a bad thing? Not in my opinion 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravejd 3,270 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, au302 said: I don't see any benefit in keeping it quiet if the guy is hired, but I may be wrong. I'm sure the commits and a lot of recruits know. Other recruits, HS coaches, momentum in general from the hire. Seems like there's no benefit to keep it under wraps, but maybe I'm wrong. He needs to take his time and get the best guy though Even if it is the WR coach then a new coach will be brought on. My random guess is that Harsin is considering a few different options right now on who that extra coach will be and how he will fit in the current staff makeup. Before making any final decisions. For example if Harsin wants to bring in Hill to be co-oc with Kiesau then Hill has to let AZ State know etc.. Or if Harsin just wants to promote Kiesau and not bring in a co-oc he still has to decide which position Kiesau will coach and based on that who the position coach is that gets brought in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Might also be a matter of respect and appearances. Respect to Bobo to not announce while the body's still warm and to not make it appear as though he had Bobo's replacement confirmed before he fired him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,997 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Just now, McLoofus said: Might also be a matter of respect and appearances. Respect to Bobo to not announce while the body's still warm and to not make it appear as though he had Bobo's replacement confirmed before he fired him. Very good point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au302 2,669 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, gravejd said: Even if it is the WR coach then a new coach will be brought on. My random guess is that Harsin is considering a few different options right now on who that extra coach will be and how he will fit in the current staff makeup. Before making any final decisions. For example if Harsin wants to bring in Hill to be co-oc with Kiesau then Hill has to let AZ State know etc.. Or if Harsin just wants to promote Kiesau and not bring in a co-oc he still has to decide which position Kiesau will coach and based on that who the position coach is that gets brought in. He built the staff on flexibility for sure. Kiesau could coach receivers and QB's I believe. Bedell was OL for Boise. Seems like there's a number of ways he could shuffle it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) Promoting from within doesn't bother me if we get more young local guys who can recruit to replace those guys. Corn was going to be that kind of guy but obviously something didn't mesh. Edited November 30, 2021 by McLoofus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeleagle 2,945 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Interested to know the reason Harsin would give, if asked, as to why the change at OC? HE picked him and his reasoning then was that he and Bobo both had similar concepts on how to run an offense, and Harsin remembers it being hard to defend Bobo's offense when he was at CSU. So WHA HAPPEN? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,652 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, steeleagle said: Interested to know the reason Harsin would give, if asked, as to why the change at OC? HE picked him and his reasoning then was that he and Bobo both had similar concepts on how to run an offense, and Harsin remembers it being hard to defend Bobo's offense when he was at CSU. So WHA HAPPEN? He witnessed first hand, from the sideline, that it's not gonna work HERE. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, DAG said: How do we know he hasn’t been promoted. He very well could’ve been promoted and the media just has no inkling. I believe it will be a guy well versed to CBH. Not grimes, dell or any of these other guys being named. It will be a great melt when that occurs. Can’t wait for the entertainment If he was already promoted it would be announced and we'd be letting all the recruits know. And if we've only been letting recruits know & not telling the media, that would have leaked already. I agree it's going to be someone close to him, not someone with ties to Auburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,229 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 btw, OU insiders have said Jeff Lebby is going back to Oklahoma with Brent Venerables. Its all theirs if they want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,997 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, W.E.D said: If he was already promoted it would be announced and we'd be letting all the recruits know. And if we've only been letting recruits know & not telling the media, that would have leaked already. I agree it's going to be someone close to him, not someone with ties to Auburn I find with this coaching staff the media is always two steps behind and that’s not opinion based. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURealist 2,185 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, steeleagle said: Interested to know the reason Harsin would give, if asked, as to why the change at OC? HE picked him and his reasoning then was that he and Bobo both had similar concepts on how to run an offense, and Harsin remembers it being hard to defend Bobo's offense when he was at CSU. So WHA HAPPEN? Repeated lack of second half points? 8 yd shotgun snap on a run play when we desperate needed 2 yards? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,997 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I personally believe it is our WR coach and it was eventually going to be him anyhwow. Bobo just cemented it with his tale of two halves. Of course once this gets announce some in our fanbase will be like “well, why didn’t he just announce that earlier ?” And I am going to be like hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, DAG said: I find with this coaching staff the media is always two steps behind and that’s not opinion based. I don't disagree wrt the media, but there is zero reason to keep it quiet 15 days before NSD. They will tell people before they tell the media. That's players, recruits, HS coaches, girlfriends, wives, etc. If these people have already been told it was Coach Key, there would be dozens of "insdiers" making a name for them selves ready to spill this information across various message boards. I don't think anyone has been hired yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,997 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, W.E.D said: I don't disagree wrt the media, but there is zero reason to keep it quiet 15 days before NSD. They will tell people before they tell the media. That's players, recruits, HS coaches, girlfriends, wives, etc. If these people have already been told it was Coach Key, there would be dozens of "insdiers" making a name for them selves ready to spill this information across various message boards. I don't think anyone has been hired yet. Haha okay guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DAG said: Haha okay guy Yeah, we promoted our WR coach hours ago and absolutely no one knows besides Harsin & Key Make sense. Edited November 30, 2021 by W.E.D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURealist 2,185 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Kiesau should be the last resort. We've already got him. I'd like to see some sort of evidence we aren't creating a Gus Ball 2.0 situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,229 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Didba said: Brian Kelly is not a good coach. Note Dame has been a joke ha, Brian Kelly just became the winningest coach in Notre Dame history this past season at 60 years old. Sounds like a joke sure. He's been to the championship and playoffs 3 times. (could be 4 times this year) Edited November 30, 2021 by Randman5000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,997 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Just now, W.E.D said: Yeah, we promoted our WR coach hours ago and absolutely no one knows besides Harsin & Key Make sense. It does doesn’t it ? Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.E.D 11,070 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Just now, DAG said: It does doesn’t it ? Haha Yes, It makes sense for no one to ever know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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