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1 minute ago, Didba said:

It baffles me how you think Hugh or Lane would be better than Deion. Explain how Deion is clearly over his head at his current school as your post implies.

Lane is terrible at recruiting right now, and has terrible in game decision making.  Ole Miss recruiting class is worse than Auburn's right now.

Freeze has poor real life decision making skills and an idiot. He may be a good coach but his recruiting prowess was supplanted by cheating before NIL, and even recently has shown to still think he can get away with extremely immoral actions when he texted that sexual assault victim suing the school and screwed up the settlement the school was negotiating.  He is someone who can have a lawyer/school admin tell him "dude do not do XYZ" and then he turns around and does XYZ.

Freeze is ultimate JABA, Gus 2.0 but with worse character and Kiffin well is Kiffin.

Deion literally has NOTHING on his resume to compare to either coach. lol. You're qualifying him simply by recruiting. He hasn't even won the SWAC championship with the talent his at JSU. Ole Miss has a viable offense...New Years 6 bowl. That's as good as it is going to get at Ole Miss. Liberty could probably beat AU right now and they have yet another solid QB. Can AU say the same? Fine, don't hire either but this pipe dream of Deion is even worse than the list of Urban and Stoops. At least they have experience.

You're talking about characteristics. Yes, that's important..very important. And guess what, Deion's past isn't very clean either. You may want to do more research on him before you just throw another unproven coach at AU. 

Ole Miss and Liberty's resume over the past 2-3 looks a lot better than AU. Deion isn't going to let the good ole boys at AU dictate anything he does. It's pretty clear that many have no clue how the man operates and just looking at the recruiting and marketing aspect. lol. 

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26 minutes ago, clwn said:

Apparently he laughed at the notion from what I heard. Something about not wanting to fill his life with disappointment. Sucks if true.

What are you even talking about ?

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6 minutes ago, WarEagle1983 said:

Deion literally has NOTHING on his resume to compare to either coach. lol. You're qualifying him simply by recruiting. He hasn't even won the SWAC championship with the talent his at JSU. Ole Miss has a viable offense...New Years 6 bowl. That's as good as it is going to get at Ole Miss. Liberty could probably beat AU right now and they have yet another solid QB. Can AU say the same? Fine, don't hire either but this pipe dream of Deion is even worse than the list of Urban and Stoops. At least they have experience.

You're talking about characteristics. Yes, that's important..very important. And guess what, Deion's past isn't very clean either. You may want to do more research on him before you just throw another unproven coach at AU. 

Ole Miss and Liberty's resume over the past 2-3 looks a lot better than AU. Deion isn't going to let the good ole boys at AU dictate anything he does. It's pretty clear that many have no clue how the man operates and just looking at the recruiting and marketing aspect. lol. 

I have done the research on Deion bud, seems like you have skipped reading many posts in this thread speaking precisely to his history, story and changes throughout his life.  maybe, take a gander back through this thread for those posts.

Oh wait, I am sorry I must have missed where Deion hired hookers for recruits, pressured a sexual assault victim, and generally was a fake POS that claimed to be a godly christian man while constantly making immoral decisions. 

Oh I also missed where Deion was well known for trolling college bars at 40+ years old looking for young poontang, we all laugh about Joey Freshwater but there is more truth to those stories than many realize.

Good try though, I admire the effort.

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6 minutes ago, Didba said:

I have done the research on Deion bud, seems like you have skipped reading many posts in this thread speaking precisely to his history, story and changes throughout his life.  maybe, take a gander back through this thread for those posts.

Oh wait, I am sorry I must have missed where Deion hired hookers for recruits, pressured a sexual assault victim, and generally was a fake POS that claimed to be a godly christian man while constantly making immoral decisions. 

Oh I also missed where Deion was well known for trolling college bars at 40+ years old looking for young poontang, we all laugh about Joey Freshwater but there is more truth to those stories than many realize.

Good try though, I admire the effort.

Not hookers, call girls... There is a difference 

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Just now, NWALA Tiger said:

Not hookers, call girls... There is a difference 

True hookers are $$, call girls are $$$$, escorts are $$$$$$

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8 minutes ago, Didba said:

I have done the research on Deion bud, seems like you have skipped reading many posts in this thread speaking precisely to his history, story and changes throughout his life.  maybe, take a gander back through this thread for those posts.

Oh wait, I am sorry I must have missed where Deion hired hookers for recruits, pressured a sexual assault victim, and generally was a fake POS that claimed to be a godly christian man while constantly making immoral decisions. 

Oh I also missed where Deion was well known for trolling college bars at 40+ years old looking for young poontang, we all laugh about Joey Freshwater but there is more truth to those stories than many realize.

Good try though, I admire the effort.

Message to self: don’t annoy this guy :)

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5 minutes ago, Didba said:

I have done the research on Deion bud, seems like you have skipped reading many posts in this thread speaking precisely to his history, story and changes throughout his life.  maybe, take a gander back through this thread for those posts.

Oh wait, I am sorry I must have missed where Deion hired hookers for recruits, pressured a sexual assault victim, and generally was a fake POS that claimed to be a godly christian man while constantly making immoral decisions. 

Oh I also missed where Deion was well known for trolling college bars at 40+ years old looking for young poontang, we all laugh about Joey Freshwater but there is more truth to those stories than many realize.

Good try though, I admire the effort.

Again i get you have an issue with their character and that's your right to do so. But if Deion had the opportunity to make changes in his life why doesn't Lane and Hugh? Just b/c they're not vocal and shouting to the rooftops about being a devout Christian doesn't mean they have not made changes in their lives. It's clear that you're aware each man's discretion but you've chosen to accept Deion has changed but not the others. And that's your right but i don't recall anything recently that Lane or Hugh has done? 

I think each gentleman have shown some growth from their mistakes.

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Just now, auburnatl1 said:

Message to self: don’t annoy this guy :)

I write arguments for a living, sometimes I get carried away on here... especially when I am bored sitting in my office waiting for my boss to get to the firm for our status conferences and there is literally no discovery, pleadings, briefs for me to draft or review.

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3 minutes ago, Didba said:

True hookers are $$, call girls are $$$$, escorts are $$$$$$

So my background is a nuclear engineer and when I was getting trained one particular old guy would pretty much take me out and quiz me on what I would do in every situation.....anyway when entering a room with no major components he would shine his flashlight and say no murders and no dead hookers ok we're good 😂

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4 minutes ago, Didba said:

I write arguments for a living, sometimes I get carried away on here... especially when I am bored sitting in my office waiting for my boss to get to the firm for our status conferences and there is literally no discovery, pleadings, briefs for me to draft or review.

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Yep, you have that attorney/general counsel feel to you.

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well if we cannot get mr sanders lets go for the duck.

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8 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

It also has to do with the type of shoes they wear. Not speaking from experience,  of course

Well, TIL... truth be told I have never even been to a strip club, not for moral reasons, always just seemed a pointless waste of money rather buy a bag of illegal smiles and go burn one down

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12 minutes ago, WarEagle1983 said:

Again i get you have an issue with their character and that's your right to do so. But if Deion had the opportunity to make changes in his life why doesn't Lane and Hugh? Just b/c they're not vocal and shouting to the rooftops about being a devout Christian doesn't mean they have not made changes in their lives. It's clear that you're aware each man's discretion but you've chosen to accept Deion has changed but not the others. And that's your right but i don't recall anything recently that Lane or Hugh has done? 

I think each gentleman have shown some growth from their mistakes.

mr sanders tried to kill himself a few years ago. he survived and the folks that know him claim he turned his life around. i believe he wanted to get into helping young men get ahead in this life.

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11 minutes ago, cole256 said:

So my background is a nuclear engineer and when I was getting trained one particular old guy would pretty much take me out and quiz me on what I would do in every situation.....anyway when entering a room with no major components he would shine his flashlight and say no murders and no dead hookers ok we're good 😂

Sounds like the stories/jokes my engineer buddies tell me that the old timers tell them while working at Motiva and other Texas petro refineries. Old engineers, they are all cut from the same cloth

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2 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

mr sanders tried to kill himself a few years ago. he survived and the folks that know him claim he turned his life around. i believe he wanted to get into helping young men get ahead in this life.

I'm well aware of that. He's done and continues to do amazing things. My only point to one of the posters was that he mentioned Lane and Hugh's transgressions. If Deion was allowed to change why are they not allowed to do the same?

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1 minute ago, WarEagle1983 said:

I'm well aware of that. He's done and continues to do amazing things. My only point to one of the posters was that he mentioned Lane and Hugh's transgressions. If Deion was allowed to change why are they not allowed to do the same?

That’s a good question 

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34 minutes ago, WarEagle1983 said:

Again i get you have an issue with their character and that's your right to do so. But if Deion had the opportunity to make changes in his life why doesn't Lane and Hugh? Just b/c they're not vocal and shouting to the rooftops about being a devout Christian doesn't mean they have not made changes in their lives. It's clear that you're aware each man's discretion but you've chosen to accept Deion has changed but not the others. And that's your right but i don't recall anything recently that Lane or Hugh has done? 

I think each gentleman have shown some growth from their mistakes.

Lane's transgressions really aren't that bad so I agree with you on that, plus he has apparently chilled out at Ole Miss, I like him as a Coach, but I really don't like his in game decision making, playcalling is fine.

I'll admit Kiffin wouldn't be the worst hire, better than Freeze for sure, I don't think he scares Saban one bit and lately his recruiting has been a massive concern but his resume is better than Sander's so I'll retract my previous statements on him as you have made good points.

Freeze, on the other hand, his transgressions were criminal but albeit he had supposedly been a reformed man, however the recent scandal with the lawsuit showed that he has not learned one bit from the Ole Miss scandal and hasn't changed.  I don't trust a man that ignores what lawyers tell him and screws up a lawsuit for his University.  50/50 chance he does something dumb at Auburn too.

Link so you can read up on the scandal I am referring to that happened in July 2022

https://thecomeback.com/ncaa/hugh-freeze-liberty-dm-sexual-assault.html

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3 minutes ago, DAG said:

That’s a good question 

I just answered why Freeze isn't allowed to change because his actions show he clearly hasn't.

I shouldn't have gone in so hard on Kiffin, his stuff wasn't really that bad. I retracted my statements.

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3 minutes ago, Didba said:

I just answered why Freeze isn't allowed to change because his actions show he clearly hasn't.

I shouldn't have gone in so hard on Kiffin, his stuff wasn't really that bad. I retracted my statements.

Lucky for us you don’t have the final judgment call lol.

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Has Freeze changed , repented, whatever?  How long has it been since his last transgression,  two or three months?  My issue is that we are already disadvantaged in recruiting, hiring him will make this also easy to recruit against us.  Mamas are not so easily influenced by win/loss records.

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3 minutes ago, DAG said:

Lucky for us you don’t have the final judgment call lol.

Dude, he literally had a scandal in July 2022.  He hasn't changed one bit.

https://thecomeback.com/ncaa/hugh-freeze-liberty-dm-sexual-assault.html

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12 minutes ago, WarEagle1983 said:

I'm well aware of that. He's done and continues to do amazing things. My only point to one of the posters was that he mentioned Lane and Hugh's transgressions. If Deion was allowed to change why are they not allowed to do the same?

anyone is allowed to change. are you aware hugh has been harassing a lady on the phone? it has been mentioned on here several times and it gives a very creepy and bad vibe out. as far as kiff goes i have no idea.

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