Still no evidence of anything impeachable.... maybe the evidence is in the prize egg at the egg hunt.

[AU9377 4,964]

At this point, even the most deranged House Republican cannot deny that they simply have nothing.  Once again, they have made sensational claims and those claims have shown themselves to be fairy tales.  This all goes back to not having an impeachable offense when the process started.  Instead, they dove into the process backwards.  They allowed their members to repeat anything anyone had ever heard on right wing media.  They accepted it all without questioning the sources and without concern for the long term impact of their actions.

https://www.wdtn.com/news/politics/ap-politics/ap-biden-impeachment-inquiry-is-at-a-crossroads-as-hunter-biden-declines-to-appear-gop-eyes-next-move/

[alanevans 47]

All the Trumpists need to see/read Parnas’ testimony today.

Basically, the  Russia thing was no hoax, the first impeachment was fully justified and there are a lot of willing Republicans who are accomplices 

[I_M4_AU 7,857]

1 hour ago, alanevans said:

All the Trumpists need to see/read Parnas’ testimony today.

Basically, the  Russia thing was no hoax, the first impeachment was fully justified and there are a lot of willing Republicans who are accomplices 

Parnas, a convicted felon, testified he didn’t find corruption between Ukrain and the Bidens, he did not testify the same about Russia, Romania and China as he had no knowledge.  Proves nothing.

[aubiefifty 16,807]

1 hour ago, alanevans said:

All the Trumpists need to see/read Parnas’ testimony today.

Basically, the  Russia thing was no hoax, the first impeachment was fully justified and there are a lot of willing Republicans who are accomplices 

i just posted an eye opening article in a different thread. of course the right will say who believes the huff///////////right?

[I_M4_AU 7,857]

AOC:

AOC completely LOSES IT when Tony Bobulinski gives her an answer to her question she doesn't like:

AOC: "Did you witness the President commit a crime?

BOBULINSKI: "Yes."

AOC: "What crime have you witnessed?"

BOBULINSKI: "How much time do I have?"

AOC: "Name the crime."

BOBULINSKI: "Corruption statutes, RICO and conspiracy, FARA..."

AOC then reclaims her time and monologues while refusing to allow Bobulinski to answer.

 

If Comer does go with criminal referrals it will still be a mark on the Biden administration.  It probably won’t make too much of a difference as Biden has other issues to contend with in the election cycle.

Between Bobulinski and Parnas; I’ll go with the veteran with a spotless record.

[TexasTiger 12,948]

1 hour ago, I_M4_AU said:

Parnas, a convicted felon, testified he didn’t find corruption between Ukrain and the Bidens, he did not testify the same about Russia, Romania and China as he had no knowledge.  Proves nothing.

You believe in unproven corruption. Said it many times.

[I_M4_AU 7,857]

20 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

You believe in unproven corruption. Said it many times.

I believe Biden is as corrupt as they come and Bobulinski has the receipts, it just doesn’t have the interest of justice department.

[DKW 86 7,426]

And crackheads become Millionaires every day for no good reason in America...

[AU9377 4,964]

6 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

AOC:

AOC completely LOSES IT when Tony Bobulinski gives her an answer to her question she doesn't like:

AOC: "Did you witness the President commit a crime?

BOBULINSKI: "Yes."

AOC: "What crime have you witnessed?"

BOBULINSKI: "How much time do I have?"

AOC: "Name the crime."

BOBULINSKI: "Corruption statutes, RICO and conspiracy, FARA..."

AOC then reclaims her time and monologues while refusing to allow Bobulinski to answer.

 

If Comer does go with criminal referrals it will still be a mark on the Biden administration.  It probably won’t make too much of a difference as Biden has other issues to contend with in the election cycle.

Between Bobulinski and Parnas; I’ll go with the veteran with a spotless record.

You realize that if there was anything there at all, the circus would all be under the big tent ready to start the  main event? 

Contrast this to the first Trump impeachment.

1. A specific act on the part of the President constituting an abuse of power and the nature of that action constituting obstruction of Congress were the articles of impeachment.  There hasn't been an allegation of any wrongdoing by Joe Biden made by this joke of a committee.  Instead, they have wasted time that could be used finding solutions to real problems having hearings that have produced nothing of value.  Like Benghazi and countless others, they thrive on innuendo and sound bites, without any real substance.

2. In Trump impeachment #1, witnesses included Trump appointed ambassadors, State Dept. officials, enlisted active duty military personnel working as National Security Advisors and others all giving testimony proving the allegations. In this "inquiry", all we have seen is a group of grown men and women intent on harassing anyone related to the President in hopes of finding something on which to tie their hopes.

[AU9377 4,964]

5 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

I believe Biden is as corrupt as they come and Bobulinski has the receipts, it just doesn’t have the interest of justice department.

Nobody needs the Justice Dept if you have evidence of a crime and the person alleged to have committed the crime is the President of the United States.  When someone says they have the evidence and over a year later they still don't produce it, they are full of horse manure.

[I_M4_AU 7,857]

7 hours ago, AU9377 said:

Nobody needs the Justice Dept if you have evidence of a crime and the person alleged to have committed the crime is the President of the United States.  When someone says they have the evidence and over a year later they still don't produce it, they are full of horse manure.

Bobulinski has produced it.  Comer is listening, but Dems don’t believe it.  The justice department is too busy with Bidens work.  If Biden is clean, why not be transparent?

ETA:  It’s a damn cover up

 

 

Edited March 21 by I_M4_AU

[I_M4_AU 7,857]

7 hours ago, AU9377 said:

You realize that if there was anything there at all, the circus would all be under the big tent ready to start the  main event? 

Not with today’s media.

 

[I_M4_AU 7,857]

This is a comparison of the way the Dems think:

 

 

[auburnatl1 4,957]

If the Trump impeachment proceedings hadn’t taken place, would this truly be going on now?  Gotta stop this cycle.

[CoffeeTiger 5,125]

1 hour ago, I_M4_AU said:

Bobulinski has produced it.  Comer is listening, but Dems don’t believe it.  The justice department is too busy with Bidens work.  If Biden is clean, why not be transparent?

ETA:  It’s a damn cover up

 

 

 

You are constantly defending this investigation by saying "Comer says this..Comer says that...Comer says Biden did this Crime..Comer is listening. Comer believes this crime happened... Comer Comer comer comer..." 

Everyone knows what James Comer thinks and believes, but what James comer thinks doesn't mean bull. What matters is what EVIDENCE he and his committee can produce to support or prove his beliefs and accusations...which is what they've come up empty on so far in this long investigation...especially when their top witness and primary driving force behind the entire inquiry was arrested for lying to the FBI. 

 

Dems aren't the only ones who aren't buying this. The House GOP cant even get all their own members on board for an impeachment vote. 

 

I can see you're already prepared to buy the GOP excuses when Comer decides that instead of impeachment he'll just recommend the DOJ charge Biden with crimes...will give the DOJ no evidence of said crimes...and then will get on Right wing media and blame the DOJ for being in Bidens pocket when they choose not to prosecute...and MAGAs like you will eat it up. 

[AU9377 4,964]

1 hour ago, auburnatl1 said:

If the Trump impeachment proceedings hadn’t taken place, would this truly be going on now?  Gotta stop this cycle.

I don't think the second should have taken place.  The first, I believe, was very much warranted.  The first wasn't about an intern serving in the Oval office being naughty or not being truthful about a private affair.  Democrats didn't even make the initial allegations, which were proven in detail.  Trump was literally using his position as Commander in Chief in order to extort a foreign country to do something in order to hurt his political rival in the U.S.  He went to the extent of telling Ukraine that they didn't have to actually present evidence, but that he just needed them to announce an investigation and accuse Joe Biden of corruption. That makes Watergate look silly.

Even though his own Republican appointed officials provided the majority of the testimony and his NSA team confirmed everything that the initial whistleblower had reported, Republicans in the Senate condoned his behavior.  He will do the same and more if given the opportunity again.

[homersapien 11,386]

1 hour ago, auburnatl1 said:

If the Trump impeachment proceedings hadn’t taken place, would this truly be going on now?  Gotta stop this cycle.

That presumes a false equivalence.

[auburnatl1 4,957]

44 minutes ago, homersapien said:

That presumes a false equivalence.

 

44 minutes ago, homersapien said:

That presumes a false equivalence.

Not the point. This is a silly nva retribution snipe hunt. Nothing more. The voters will decide on equivalence soon enough.

[DKW 86 7,426]

From what I read today, the Republicans are bowing out of the impeachment hearings. So no impeachment for what there is no real evidence. Wished the other team could say the same thing over two Impeachments that were never going anywhere. 

[I_M4_AU 7,857]

2 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Everyone knows what James Comer thinks and believes, but what James comer thinks doesn't mean bull. What matters is what EVIDENCE he and his committee can produce to support or prove his beliefs and accusations...which is what they've come up empty on so far in this long investigation...especially when their top witness and primary driving force behind the entire inquiry was arrested for lying to the FBI. 

What a BS statement.  A partner and other associates have testified about wrong doings, whistle blowers have risked their careers to shine a light on the Biden Crime family, bank records point toward nafarious activity and it is obvious Hunter and/or Joe is guilty of FARA.  The arrested FBI informant that had worked for the FBI was NOT the primary driving force.  He was the author of the FD 2023 form that the FBI had hidden for years.  That form was requested last May and the investigation into Hunter had begun at least by 2022 well before the request for the FD 2023 request in May of 2023.  He might have been a source, but there is enough smoke without him to proceed.

2 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Dems aren't the only ones who aren't buying this. The House GOP cant even get all their own members on board for an impeachment vote. 

The GOP won’t bring an impeachment vote because they feel they don’t have the votes with such a slim majority.  It’s not because they don’t have the evidence.  It is political.  There is no reason to bring impeachment if they know it won’t get past the Senate, not because he isn’t guilty but because of partisan politics.

 

2 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

I can see you're already prepared to buy the GOP excuses when Comer decides that instead of impeachment he'll just recommend the DOJ charge Biden with crimes...will give the DOJ no evidence of said crimes...and then will get on Right wing media and blame the DOJ for being in Bidens pocket when they choose not to prosecute...and MAGAs like you will eat it up. 

No, what will happen is the stage is set when Biden is no longer the President as the precedents has been set.  These hearings are nothing more than a Jan 6th committee hearing to let the public know Joe is scum. I wonder why Hunter didn’t show up?  He said he wanted to testify in a public forum.  Will he go to jail as he defied a Congressional subpoena?

[homersapien 11,386]

 

 

 

39 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

From what I read today, the Republicans are bowing out of the impeachment hearings. So no impeachment for what there is no real evidence. Wished the other team could say the same thing over two Impeachments that were never going anywhere. 

....says the MAGA "narrative monkey". 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50650216

Trump impeachment evidence overwhelming - House report

What does the report say?

The Trump-Ukraine Impeachment Inquiry Report was made public on Tuesday by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

It says the inquiry "uncovered a months-long effort by President Trump to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election".

"President Trump's scheme subverted US foreign policy toward Ukraine and undermined our national security in favour of two politically-motivated investigations that would help his presidential re-election campaign," it says.

"The president demanded that the newly-elected Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelensky, publicly announce investigations into a political rival that he apparently feared the most, former Vice-President Joe Biden, and into a discredited theory that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that interfered in the 2016 presidential election."

Evidence of misconduct is overwhelming "and so too is the evidence of his obstruction of Congress", the report says.

Anyone who listened to Adam Schiff's extended, extemporaneous closing statement at the impeachment hearings two weeks ago probably wouldn't be surprised by the summary of the Intelligence Committee report released on Tuesday. Buried within the pages of the 300-page document, however, were some striking new details.

The telecommunications company AT&T provided committee investigators with Rudy Giuliani's mobile phone records - and those records shed new light on the timing and breadth the communications Donald Trump's personal lawyer had with the White House.

Starting in April of this year, Giuliani had multiple phone conversations with numbers listed for the White House and, in particular, the Office of Management and Budget - the government agency ultimately responsible for putting a hold on the congressionally authorised US military aid to Ukraine.

While the details of these communications aren't known, their simple existence undercuts the contention of some presidential defenders that Giuliani was operating independently of senior administration officials.

Multiple witnesses, including US Ambassador to the EU Gordan Sondland, have testified that Giuliani was directing them, at the behest of the president, to pressure Ukrainian officials to open investigations that would be politically advantageous for Mr Trump.

Now the line between Giuliani and the White House has become more certain....

 

 

[DKW 86 7,426]

3 minutes ago, homersapien said:

 

 

 

....says the MAGA "narrative monkey". 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50650216

Trump impeachment evidence overwhelming - House report

What does the report say?

The Trump-Ukraine Impeachment Inquiry Report was made public on Tuesday by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

It says the inquiry "uncovered a months-long effort by President Trump to use the powers of his office to solicit foreign interference on his behalf in the 2020 election".

"President Trump's scheme subverted US foreign policy toward Ukraine and undermined our national security in favour of two politically-motivated investigations that would help his presidential re-election campaign," it says.

"The president demanded that the newly-elected Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelensky, publicly announce investigations into a political rival that he apparently feared the most, former Vice-President Joe Biden, and into a discredited theory that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that interfered in the 2016 presidential election."

Evidence of misconduct is overwhelming "and so too is the evidence of his obstruction of Congress", the report says.

Anyone who listened to Adam Schiff's extended, extemporaneous closing statement at the impeachment hearings two weeks ago probably wouldn't be surprised by the summary of the Intelligence Committee report released on Tuesday. Buried within the pages of the 300-page document, however, were some striking new details.

The telecommunications company AT&T provided committee investigators with Rudy Giuliani's mobile phone records - and those records shed new light on the timing and breadth the communications Donald Trump's personal lawyer had with the White House.

Starting in April of this year, Giuliani had multiple phone conversations with numbers listed for the White House and, in particular, the Office of Management and Budget - the government agency ultimately responsible for putting a hold on the congressionally authorised US military aid to Ukraine.

While the details of these communications aren't known, their simple existence undercuts the contention of some presidential defenders that Giuliani was operating independently of senior administration officials.

Multiple witnesses, including US Ambassador to the EU Gordan Sondland, have testified that Giuliani was directing them, at the behest of the president, to pressure Ukrainian officials to open investigations that would be politically advantageous for Mr Trump.

Now the line between Giuliani and the White House has become more certain....

 

 

And there is still no conviction and never will be. You see you can have opinions but that doesn’t make it any actual fact. There was never enough evidence for an impeachment conviction. The same folks that called off the dogs yesterday are the same people that found there to be not enough evidence for trumps impeachment 2x. 

Edited March 21 by DKW 86

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[AUFAN78 3,911]

17 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

I believe Biden is as corrupt as they come and Bobulinski has the receipts, it just doesn’t have the interest of justice department.

Rep, Burchett basically saying the same: we know $20mil moved through this family, we don't have the votes regardless, DOJ not interested. 

 

Edited March 21 by AUFAN78

[AUFAN78 3,911]

13 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

And crackheads become Millionaires every day for no good reason in America...

Common sense goes a long way, but don't expect those parroting CNN talking points to use any, for obvious reasons.