Harsin Drama Megathread

[ThurstontheWelshCorgi 576]

What is Clesi's function at Auburn? Paper pusher, answers phone calls, player relations? What kind of person did Malzahn and Chizik or Tuberville have in that same role out of curiousity?

[auburnfaithful72 125]

6 minutes ago, DAG said:

Yes because they would never lie , right ?

I may be wrong, but I think like many others do that Harsin had no loyalty to his staff and players and someone on the staff may have set the investigation going and then bailed. I don't buy all these PTB would drag this out like this without something. We will see..

[bigbird 60,590]

10 minutes ago, DAG said:

It isn’t ? How so? Like I said this is redirection from the more serious allegations. Mason leaving sucks but he can be replaced. However , I think it is hilarious how it’s a big red flag now. @cole256, @bigbird, myself and other caught so much flack taking up for him now you are on his jockstrap. I thought most here wanted him to leave ?

I'm pretty sure #FireMason was trending at some point

[DAG 34,045]

Just now, auburnfaithful72 said:

I may be wrong, but I think like many others do that Harsin had no loyalty to his staff and players and someone on the staff may have set the investigation going and then bailed. I don't buy all these PTB would drag this out like this without something. We will see..

So that is a rumor then. It is unfounded. If what you say is true and they had hard evidence , he would be gone by now. I can’t find the post but I am pretty sure a prominent poster said things were moving immensely and we would hear something within 24-36 hours. 

[AUwent 3,778]

1 hour ago, autiger88 said:

There is it's on the Donor Board🙃😁 ain't that right @DAG and @W.E.D

Kind of gathered that.

We = people too cheap to donate.

[BHDAU1 240]

My first post on this matter, sorry for the length.  It all seems like a bunch of noise and nonsense.  Harsin seems to be a no BS kind of guy and I would imagine that his coaching style is very stern and strict.  If you don't do what you are asked to do in the way you are asked to do it you are scolded, made to do it correctly, and everyone moves on to the next thing.  If a player continues to not do what is asked in the way he is asked to do it, he loses his position to someone who will, and if said player throws a temper tantrum and/or goes on a social media rant about it then he shouldn't be part of the team.  I never played college football, only 5A high school ball in Ky.. I understand that it is different world in many areas, but on the practice field and during games it is all the same thing.  We had a strict business-like coach but he was simply trying to "bring the cream to the top", get everyone's very best performance out of them, and get rid of the guys that cried and complained instead of manning-up.  You were expected to give 100% effort in everything you did, even running to the water tree for a drink during breaks in the two-a-day practices during the summer.  If you did NOT get on board with the program you got left behind.  I could be totally wrong about this as I have no more information about this than anyone else on here that has read thru all of the news articles and "insider" posts, but that is just my gut feeling from I have seen from Harsin in the media.  I think he believes the ONLY way that Auburn becomes a program that wins championships on a regular basis is to have nothing but players that are totally bought-in to his system that are as tough as they can be and willing to go 100% all of the time.  These are young adults yes, but most are 18 and older and could be serving in the military instead (where I guarantee they wont be babied!).  Maybe I am too old-school (I just turned 42 last month), but after watching some of those livestream convos with some of Auburn's players count me as NONE TOO IMPRESSED.  Besides the total annihilation of the English language that these college "student" athletes use as common speech, it seems to me that they are more concerned about having a friend that is also their coach rather than a coach that wants to get the very best out of them regardless of how THEY feel about it.  There is of course a time and a place for everything.  Despite my high school football coach being a total tough disciplinarian on the field and in the locker room, I never felt like I couldn't go talk to him as one man to another after practice if I had a problem with something football related or in any other aspect of my life.  It's almost as if some of these people and players are expecting the coaches to also parent these kids which would be an impossible task, particularly when you are supposed to running a top-tier major college football program.   Do we really want a bunch of the 4 and 5 star guys that other programs have passed on because the kids have multiple issues with authority and personal responsibility? The same goes for guys already on the team that instead of working harder at practice to do whatever drill or task they are asked to do perfectly, would rather get online and start a b*t*h-fest and complain about how hard they have it or how "mean" Coach Harsin is for calling them out.  It is particularly ironic when some of them talk about coming from the ghetto/hood and how hard they had it.  You are not in the hood being shot at or in danger anymore, you have the opportunity to get a 1st class education with no debt, you will get 1st class nutritious food 3 times a day at minimum (better than what normal students get), very nice lodging provided for you every night, and there are more support programs available to you thru the college as an athlete than any other normal student has.  If the worst thing you have to complain about at this point is the coach being a "meanie head" that just doesn't understand you (whatever that means), then I would say you are living a pretty damned CHARMED LIFE AT THIS POINT WOULDNT YOU? Just my .02 cents.           

[PigskinPat 2,582]

26 minutes ago, Auburn Tiger said:

What if Mason left because he knew he was going to be fired, leaving him with an even larger pay cut?

Isn’t quitting with no job to go to a much bigger pay cut than getting fired where he’d get a guaranteed buyout?

Edited February 8, 2022 by PigskinPat

[ShocksMyBrain 9,394]

18 minutes ago, auburnatl1 said:

It’s inevitable. Be ready. When someone posts that Gruden is coming, it’s time to quickly euthanatize the site.

We’re not UTk, we’re not getting Gruden. 

[auburnfaithful72 125]

1 minute ago, DAG said:

So that is a rumor then. It is unfounded. If what you say is true and they had hard evidence , he would be gone by now. I can’t find the post but I am pretty sure a prominent poster said things were moving immensely and we would hear something within 24-36 hours. 

True but would you fire him face to face or over the phone? I mean surely they ask him to come back but he isn't coming back until Wed..

[wcware 1,365]

1 hour ago, AUx said:

BRB. Gotta run to the donor site and see if any smoke is coming out of the chapel chimney yet. 

 

Update: No smoke. For a moment it looked promising, but just somebody vaping out back.

Skinny Jeans and Strawberries and cream vape makes up the donor board.

[DAG 34,045]

1 minute ago, auburnfaithful72 said:

True but would you fire him face to face or over the phone? I mean surely they ask him to come back but he isn't coming back until Wed..

You are a funny. If they had a shred evidence , it would be irrelevant whether he is in Auburn today or Thursday. Someone, somewhere would’ve gotten a hold of that information and spread it like wild fire. 

[auburnphan 6,050]

2 minutes ago, auburnfaithful72 said:

True but would you fire him face to face or over the phone? I mean surely they ask him to come back but he isn't coming back until Wed..

I mean they have basically already publicly ended the relationship for all to see.

[GreenTiger 1,007]

4 minutes ago, AEAugirl said:

 

4 minutes ago, AEAugirl said:

Its like people are grasping at straws trying to explain away the massive red flags in the football program that were not caused by the people with $$$. 

 

Same could be said for those who won’t acknowledge the positives that were seen in the HC hire and positive growth happening on the field and off the field.  

Factual positive example- Early signing day and the mock draft creativity was a overall huge success even with coming off a poor finish to the season. 

It’s a fair question to ask…. how many of the  red flags occur if the team wins??????

I have not heard any Harsin supporters not dispute that there were and are issues. But the tough question is…are the actual issues (not the rumors) worth firing a first year coach and setting the program back even further??? 

[W.E.D 11,070]

1 hour ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

So if someone was to donate, they’d know the whole factual story? Not speculation or  third hand “insider” info.

Yes, we have a collective seat on the BOT

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4 minutes ago, BHDAU1 said:

My first post on this matter, sorry for the length.  It all seems like a bunch of noise and nonsense.  Harsin seems to be a no BS kind of guy and I would imagine that his coaching style is very stern and strict.  If you don't do what you are asked to do in the way you are asked to do it you are scolded, made to do it correctly, and everyone moves on to the next thing.  If a player continues to not do what is asked in the way he is asked to do it, he loses his position to someone who will, and if said player throws a temper tantrum and/or goes on a social media rant about it then he shouldn't be part of the team.  I never played college football, only 5A high school ball in Ky.. I understand that it is different world in many areas, but on the practice field and during games it is all the same thing.  We had a strict business-like coach but he was simply trying to "bring the cream to the top", get everyone's very best performance out of them, and get rid of the guys that cried and complained instead of manning-up.  You were expected to give 100% effort in everything you did, even running to the water tree for a drink during breaks in the two-a-day practices during the summer.  If you did NOT get on board with the program you got left behind.  I could be totally wrong about this as I have no more information about this than anyone else on here that has read thru all of the news articles and "insider" posts, but that is just my gut feeling from I have seen from Harsin in the media.  I think he believes the ONLY way that Auburn becomes a program that wins championships on a regular basis is to have nothing but players that are totally bought-in to his system that are as tough as they can be and willing to go 100% all of the time.  These are young adults yes, but most are 18 and older and could be serving in the military instead (where I guarantee they wont be babied!).  Maybe I am too old-school (I just turned 42 last month), but after watching some of those livestream convos with some of Auburn's players count me as NONE TOO IMPRESSED.  Besides the total annihilation of the English language that these college "student" athletes use as common speech, it seems to me that they are more concerned about having a friend that is also their coach rather than a coach that wants to get the very best out of them regardless of how THEY feel about it.  There is of course a time and a place for everything.  Despite my high school football coach being a total tough disciplinarian on the field and in the locker room, I never felt like I couldn't go talk to him as one man to another after practice if I had a problem with something football related or in any other aspect of my life.  It's almost as if some of these people and players are expecting the coaches to also parent these kids which would be an impossible task, particularly when you are supposed to running a top-tier major college football program.   Do we really want a bunch of the 4 and 5 star guys that other programs have passed on because the kids have multiple issues with authority and personal responsibility? The same goes for guys already on the team that instead of working harder at practice to do whatever drill or task they are asked to do perfectly, would rather get online and start a b*t*h-fest and complain about how hard they have it or how "mean" Coach Harsin is for calling them out.  It is particularly ironic when some of them talk about coming from the ghetto/hood and how hard they had it.  You are not in the hood being shot at or in danger anymore, you have the opportunity to get a 1st class education with no debt, you will get 1st class nutritious food 3 times a day at minimum (better than what normal students get), very nice lodging provided for you every night, and there are more support programs available to you thru the college as an athlete than any other normal student has.  If the worst thing you have to complain about at this point is the coach being a "meanie head" that just doesn't understand you (whatever that means), then I would say you are living a pretty damned CHARMED LIFE AT THIS POINT WOULDNT YOU? Just my .02 cents.           

Unless clear evidence comes out to the contrary this sums up my thoughts well too. Thanks 

[Taco 617]

What’s happening right now 

What everybody else is doing 

[wcware 1,365]

1 minute ago, W.E.D said:

Yes, we have a collective seat on the BOT

Oh lord, you would be arguing with them about the spelling of Auburn 😂 

[auburnfaithful72 125]

1 minute ago, DAG said:

You are a funny. If they had a shred evidence , it would be irrelevant whether he is in Auburn today or Thursday. Someone, somewhere would’ve gotten a hold of that information and spread it like wild fire. 

Dude I may be funny and I may be stupid in your opinion like you called me yesterday and that is fine but I probably forgot more than you know right now. Seeing I am a pretty old guy but I know nothing will most likely happen until Wed when he gets back.. 

[NWALA Tiger 3,535]

8 minutes ago, auburnfaithful72 said:

True but would you fire him face to face or over the phone? I mean surely they ask him to come back but he isn't coming back until Wed..

According to Hoke, they asked him to come back from his vacay early, Harsin refused

[AuCivilEng1 11,046]

3 minutes ago, Taco said:

What’s happening right now 

What everybody else is doing 

Ah the ole millennial duo. These two shows have logged the majority of the hours on my television. Throw Seinfeld in there and we’re talking like 97% of my tv time.

Edited February 8, 2022 by AuCivilEng1

[DAG 34,045]

Just now, auburnfaithful72 said:

Dude I may be funny and I may be stupid in your opinion like you called me yesterday and that is fine but I probably forgot more than you know right now. Seeing I am a pretty old guy but I know nothing will most likely happen until Wed when he gets back.. 

when did I call you stupid ? lol. I don’t even know you . Unless you are referencing my AC slater GIPHY on the context as your post. That was a joke. I wasn’t calling you stupid only the idea that he would self sabotage himself to get a buy out stupid. I mean come on can you fault me for that gif?

[ThurstontheWelshCorgi 576]

14 minutes ago, ThurstontheWelshCorgi said:

What is Clesi's function at Auburn? Paper pusher, answers phone calls, player relations? What kind of person did Malzahn and Chizik or Tuberville have in that same role out of curiousity?

took a little googling but it looks like Brett Whiteside was in that role for the previous regime and is currently chief recruiting officer at mizzou

[AuCivilEng1 11,046]

29 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

According to Hoke, they asked him to come back from his vacay early, Harsin refused

I think if any of this stuff turns out to be false that Hoke said they should tar and feather that son of a b*tch in the middle of toomers corner. I’m sick of our beat writers just lying their a** off the get retweets.

Edited February 8, 2022 by AuCivilEng1

[autiger88 3,777]

8 minutes ago, W.E.D said:

Yes, we have a collective seat on the BOT

Yep we do and I'm the one that started this whole investigation. 😁

[Randman5000 4,235]

1 minute ago, NWALA Tiger said:

According to Hoke, they asked him to come back from his vacay early, Harsin refused

It seems like if there were real evidence they would have fired him, vacation or not. So far we just have that an investigation is happening and they are still interviewing people. The rest is message board fodder. That's it. Still waiting and see at this point.