The utter failure of Merrick Garland

[AUFAN78 3,926]

Merrick Garland began his tenure as attorney general with the stated intention of restoring faith in the Justice Department and the rule of law. By that standard, Garland has been a failure.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/4054455-the-utter-failure-of-merrick-garland/

[AU9377 5,027]

8 hours ago, AUFAN78 said:

Merrick Garland began his tenure as attorney general with the stated intention of restoring faith in the Justice Department and the rule of law. By that standard, Garland has been a failure.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/4054455-the-utter-failure-of-merrick-garland/

Republicans don't lack faith in the Justice Dept.  They simply need someone or something to blame to deflect from the actions of their leading candidate.  A Special Prosecutor charged Trump, not Merrick Garland.

[AURex 2,031]

Republicans just don't like federal laws being applied to them.

 

[AUFAN78 3,926]

3 hours ago, AU9377 said:

Republicans don't lack faith in the Justice Dept.  They simply need someone or something to blame to deflect from the actions of their leading candidate.  A Special Prosecutor charged Trump, not Merrick Garland.

Polls show that half the country distrusts the FBI. A recent poll by Harvard CAPS-Harris found that 70 percent are either very or somewhat concerned about election interference by the FBI and other intelligence agencies. An additional 71 percent agreed that changes post-2016 had not done enough to prevent further interference and that “wide-ranging” reform was still required. Another poll showed 64 percent view the FBI as “politically compromised.”

Americans’ party preferences were evenly divided in 2022, with 45% of U.S. adults identifying as Republican or saying they were Republican-leaning independents, and 44% identifying as Democrats or saying they were Democratic-leaning independents. 

These numbers clearly show the Justice Department has more than a Republican Party faith problem. But don't let me stand in the way of your emotional garbage posts.

[AU9377 5,027]

I believe part of the real problem are all the damn algorithms that funnel more and more of any topic or source to someone's news feed. 

[GoAU 1,600]

Selective application and prosecution of law and inventing unconstitutional “rules” combined with historically low public trust numbers - what’s not to like?

[CoffeeTiger 5,167]

On 6/18/2023 at 10:55 PM, AUFAN78 said:

Polls show that half the country distrusts the FBI. A recent poll by Harvard CAPS-Harris found that 70 percent are either very or somewhat concerned about election interference by the FBI and other intelligence agencies. An additional 71 percent agreed that changes post-2016 had not done enough to prevent further interference and that “wide-ranging” reform was still required. Another poll showed 64 percent view the FBI as “politically compromised.”

Americans’ party preferences were evenly divided in 2022, with 45% of U.S. adults identifying as Republican or saying they were Republican-leaning independents, and 44% identifying as Democrats or saying they were Democratic-leaning independents. 

These numbers clearly show the Justice Department has more than a Republican Party faith problem. But don't let me stand in the way of your emotional garbage posts.

And yet in the same poll page 15: 

53% hold a favorable opinion of the FBI vs 32% who have an unfavorable view. 

50% have a favorable view of the DoJ vs 33% have an unfavorable view

 

While a majority of people may not think the FBI/DoJ did the right thing in a few specific cases, the overall opinion/favorability of the agencies still seems to be pretty good. If so many people supposedly don't trust these agencies then why do they still hold favorable opinions about them? 

 

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by CoffeeTiger

[icanthearyou 4,463]

I trust Donald J. Trump and the Republican party.  I have no faith in the FBI.

Powerful conditioning.  All loyalty to the party.  Anyone who criticizes the party, party officials is the enemy.

[Son of A Tiger 561]

5 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

 

Powerful conditioning.  All loyalty to the party.  Anyone who criticizes the party, party officials or my son Hunter is the enemy........."I'm proud of Hunter" said Joe today after he pleaded guilty to tax evasion.

FIFY

[AU9377 5,027]

4 hours ago, Son of A Tiger said:

FIFY

Why shouldn't he be proud of his son?  His son cooperated and agreed to plead guilty to what he is being charged with. He isn't blaming anyone else but himself for his own actions.  Hunter Biden has issues and demons.  Everyone knows that.  His dad also knows that being the son of the President places even more pressure on him to walk the line.

[SLAG-91 1,483]

He got the politician's kid special, same as many others have gotten...but dang, he has had the grand bull moose of extended adolescences. Most of us in our 50s don't have the luxury of going on drug-fueled episodes, knocking up the local talent and getting to hide behind our daddy's name. He's Little Enos Burdette with a paintbrush.

Hope his wrist doesn't whelp up too much from that slap he got on it...maybe rub a little smack on it to numb the pain.

It's good to know the king, though. Genetics has its privileges. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[icanthearyou 4,463]

18 hours ago, Son of A Tiger said:

FIFY

Simply a lie.  Is that all you offer?

[icanthearyou 4,463]

13 hours ago, SLAG-91 said:

He got the politician's kid special, same as many others have gotten...but dang, he has had the grand bull moose of extended adolescences. Most of us in our 50s don't have the luxury of going on drug-fueled episodes, knocking up the local talent and getting to hide behind our daddy's name. He's Little Enos Burdette with a paintbrush.

Hope his wrist doesn't whelp up too much from that slap he got on it...maybe rub a little smack on it to numb the pain.

It's good to know the king, though. Genetics has its privileges. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

You are correct.  The capital and political classes are privileged, in fact and, in law.

[Son of A Tiger 561]

1 hour ago, icanthearyou said:

Simply a lie.  Is that all you offer?

What's a lie?

[jj3jordan 2,059]

On 6/20/2023 at 11:15 AM, icanthearyou said:

I trust Donald J. Trump and the Republican party.  I have no faith in the FBI.

Powerful conditioning.  All loyalty to the party.  Anyone who criticizes the party, party officials is the enemy.

I had faith and trust in the FBI until Comey turned the leadership into political pawns. He did it for his own personal success, and to hobble Trump and the republicans and limit their success.  He threw away his integrity to avoid angering the Clintons. Now the FBI is a joke. Impossible to take seriously.

[icanthearyou 4,463]

1 hour ago, jj3jordan said:

I had faith and trust in the FBI until Comey turned the leadership into political pawns. He did it for his own personal success, and to hobble Trump and the republicans and limit their success.  He threw away his integrity to avoid angering the Clintons. Now the FBI is a joke. Impossible to take seriously.

No.  He did not.  Had he wanted to do that, he would have revealed nothing about Clinton.  He would have revealed the investigation into Russian interference.  Not to mention, the man is a life long Republican.

Trust no one but the party.  Put your faith in Trump, Jordon, Greene, Geatz, Boebart, Comer, Cruz, Graham, Cotton.  You know, the "honorable" politicians.

Do not trust the FBI.  Trust the Federalist Society, they have no agenda.

[AU9377 5,027]

1 hour ago, jj3jordan said:

I had faith and trust in the FBI until Comey turned the leadership into political pawns. He did it for his own personal success, and to hobble Trump and the republicans and limit their success.  He threw away his integrity to avoid angering the Clintons. Now the FBI is a joke. Impossible to take seriously.

You cannot actually believe that announcing that he was re-opening his investigation days before the election helped Hillary Clinton?  If you believe that, you will believe absolutely anything.

[jj3jordan 2,059]

26 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

You cannot actually believe that announcing that he was re-opening his investigation days before the election helped Hillary Clinton?  If you believe that, you will believe absolutely anything.

I didn’t say that reopening the Clinton investigation would help her. Unfortunately for him the revelation of the new discoveries put him in a bind. He had to acknowledge it and act on it. He actually reviewed all the emails in record time ( it would have been weeks on his previous time line). He announced basically “nothing to see here” she’s clean (another lie). Bad timing for Jim. Had he just done the right thing and recommended to the AG that she prosecute her, he would be scot free, still FBI, have a job, integrity intact. I get it he is a Trump hater and he hitched his wagon to Hillary. He made his choice and influenced others like Strzok Page his deputy to follow him. That’s why the FBI has lost luster and is a joke to anybody with a brain.

[AU9377 5,027]

15 minutes ago, jj3jordan said:

I didn’t say that reopening the Clinton investigation would help her. Unfortunately for him the revelation of the new discoveries put him in a bind. He had to acknowledge it and act on it. He actually reviewed all the emails in record time ( it would have been weeks on his previous time line). He announced basically “nothing to see here” she’s clean (another lie). Bad timing for Jim. Had he just done the right thing and recommended to the AG that she prosecute her, he would be scot free, still FBI, have a job, integrity intact. I get it he is a Trump hater and he hitched his wagon to Hillary. He made his choice and influenced others like Strzok Page his deputy to follow him. That’s why the FBI has lost luster and is a joke to anybody with a brain.

Prosecute her, although, as he stated, the Justice Dept had never prosecuted anyone in the history of the DOJ with the facts as they were.  The FBI concluded, based on a lengthy investigation and after questioning her in depth that she did not knowingly transmit or possess classified information.  The emails they did find did not contain classified information relating to the national defense.  Therefore, a conviction under the relevant statutes would have been extremely unlikely.  You, all the same, would have rather he recommended charges, even if those charges would have never resulted in a conviction?  Who is weaponizing the DOJ at that point?

[jj3jordan 2,059]

17 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

Prosecute her, although, as he stated, the Justice Dept had never prosecuted anyone in the history of the DOJ with the facts as they were.  The FBI concluded, based on a lengthy investigation and after questioning her in depth that she did not knowingly transmit or possess classified information.  The emails they did find did not contain classified information relating to the national defense.  Therefore, a conviction under the relevant statutes would have been extremely unlikely.  You, all the same, would have rather he recommended charges, even if those charges would have never resulted in a conviction?  Who is weaponizing the DOJ at that point?

No he said "marked" classified. That is the failure. It was her job to mark them, her responsibility. She transmitted classified information , not marked as classified, because she did not mark it. Why didn't she mark it? So she could use her personal server. Too hard to use the protected secure server. Not convenient. That is gross criminal negligence, intent to deceive, then deleting, bleach bit, and hammers, obstruction. 

[AU9377 5,027]

19 minutes ago, jj3jordan said:

No he said "marked" classified. That is the failure. It was her job to mark them, her responsibility. She transmitted classified information , not marked as classified, because she did not mark it. Why didn't she mark it? So she could use her personal server. Too hard to use the protected secure server. Not convenient. That is gross criminal negligence, intent to deceive, then deleting, bleach bit, and hammers, obstruction. 

In no way shape or form is the responsibility to mark things as classified her responsibility.  YOU are concluding that her actions amounted to all the things you list above.  Someone that didn't have preconceived opinions and didn't otherwise magically know what was in her mind, would have to look at actual evidence.  They did that and the outcome was what it was.  The FBI concluded that there was no evidence that she attempted to obstruct their investigation.  The talking heads you listen to imply that she destroyed devices so that the FBI couldn't see them.  The FBI actually stated that they had no evidence to suggest that happened.  Did she destroy devices when she got a new one?  Yes.  Is that monumentally strange?  Not really. 

What do you think she was doing anyway?  That is the real question.  You act like she is some demon out to destroy the country.  You can disagree with her policy decisions, but you can't show one single thing in her life that she has done to the detriment of this country that was done for her enrichment.  It is all fairy tale stuff. 

Had Trump cooperated with the FBI, he would have never been indicted.  I don't even think he had some grand evil intent.  I believe that he simply doesn't believe that the rules apply to him and was being stubbornly obtuse.  Guess what?  The rules do apply and even a former President has to at least show a real effort to cooperate with the government and abide by the law.  What is disgusting is how pathetic some in the Republican party have acted over the course of the past decade.  The far left has also acted terribly at times, but the election of Barack Obama clearly pushed the far right off the ledge.  From that time forward, many act as though we aren't all Americans.  That is how a country is destroyed from within.

[icanthearyou 4,463]

3 hours ago, jj3jordan said:

No he said "marked" classified. That is the failure. It was her job to mark them, her responsibility. She transmitted classified information , not marked as classified, because she did not mark it. Why didn't she mark it? So she could use her personal server. Too hard to use the protected secure server. Not convenient. That is gross criminal negligence, intent to deceive, then deleting, bleach bit, and hammers, obstruction. 

Not to mention pedophile prostitution, free delivery when you order a large pizza.

[jj3jordan 2,059]

1 hour ago, icanthearyou said:

Not to mention pedophile prostitution, free delivery when you order a large pizza.

Possibly so ICHY. You would know. The subject matter of my post is all real. Pretend all you want.

[DKW 86 7,440]

On 6/18/2023 at 10:55 PM, AUFAN78 said:

Polls show that half the country distrusts the FBI. A recent poll by Harvard CAPS-Harris found that 70 percent are either very or somewhat concerned about election interference by the FBI and other intelligence agencies. An additional 71 percent agreed that changes post-2016 had not done enough to prevent further interference and that “wide-ranging” reform was still required. Another poll showed 64 percent view the FBI as “politically compromised.”

Americans’ party preferences were evenly divided in 2022, with 45% of U.S. adults identifying as Republican or saying they were Republican-leaning independents, and 44% identifying as Democrats or saying they were Democratic-leaning independents. 

These numbers clearly show the Justice Department has more than a Republican Party faith problem. But don't let me stand in the way of your emotional garbage posts.

Please dont confuse their derangement with facts. How dare you! lol

[DKW 86 7,440]

On 6/20/2023 at 9:49 PM, AU9377 said:

Why shouldn't he be proud of his son?  His son cooperated (only after getting charged with crimes and forced to pay his taxes. Otherwise we wouldnt be here.)

and agreed to plead guilty to what he is being charged with. (Or being drug through the court system on charges that were 1) TRUE and 2) Real Crimes.)

He isn't blaming anyone else but himself for his own actions. (I sincerely question your sanity now. There has been 100s of hours of cable news CYA already.)

Hunter Biden has issues and demons.  Everyone knows that.  His dad also knows that being the son of the President places even more pressure on him to walk the line.

(You know, if he knew or understood this he would have simply put down the crack pipe, stopped buying hookers, paid his ******* taxes, quit popping out bastard kids everywhere, and picked up the f'in laptop. I truly will never and dont want to undersatand the level of ass-kissery some of you possess.)

Thank you for setting the standard for unintentional humor on the forum.