At least 25% of the country

[TexasTiger 13,054]

Is bat%#*+ crazy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/04/fbi-conspiracy-jan-6-attack-misinformation/?utm_campaign=wp_politics_am&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_politics

[CoffeeTiger 5,186]

Like George Carlin once said. 

"Think of how stupid the average person is, then realize half of them are stupider than that."

 

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“The people that went there to express their views, to support Trump, were peaceful,” said Richard Baum, 61, an independent voter from Odessa, Tex. “The government implants were the violent ones: the FBI, the police people that were put in there, the antifa and BLM hired by George Soros; everybody knows that.”

 

lol

Edited January 4 by CoffeeTiger

[KansasTiger 3,256]

22 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

Is bat%#*+ crazy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/04/fbi-conspiracy-jan-6-attack-misinformation/?utm_campaign=wp_politics_am&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_politics

Yup. And I think it might be higher than 25%.

[KansasTiger 3,256]

27 minutes ago, KansasTiger said:

Yup. And I think it might be higher than 25%.

To be clear @TexasTiger, I'm one of the crazies. I figured I had to clarify cause I dont think you'd like that post typically 😂

[TexasTiger 13,054]

2 minutes ago, KansasTiger said:

To be clear @TexasTiger, I'm one of the crazies. I figured I had to clarify cause I dont think you'd like that post typically 😂

You think the FBI instigated the Capitol riots on January 6?

[KansasTiger 3,256]

Just now, TexasTiger said:

You think the FBI instigated the Capitol riots on January 6?

I think it's possible

[TexasTiger 13,054]

Just now, KansasTiger said:

I think it's possible

How? And why?

[KansasTiger 3,256]

7 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

How? And why?

We know the FBI has pushed extremists into crimes to arrest them. It happened in the Michigan gov abduction case recently. We know that there were agents in the Jan 6 crowd. It was rather easy for many of the protesters to get in.

I'm not expecting to convince anyone on here, but that's how I and many might connect the dots.

Edited January 4 by KansasTiger

[TexasTiger 13,054]

5 minutes ago, KansasTiger said:

We know the FBI has pushed extremists into crimes to arrest them. It happened in the Michigan gov abduction case recently. We know that there were agents in the Jan 6 crowd. It was rather easy for many of the protesters to get in.

I'm not expecting to convince anyone on here, but that's how I and many might connect the dots.

Would it make sense for agents to be in the crowd from a security standpoint? 
 

In regard to Michigan, imbedding informants into radical groups in an effort to foil plots isn’t uncommon— do you not think the Michigan group was serious?

[KansasTiger 3,256]

3 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

Would it make sense for agents to be in the crowd from a security standpoint? 
 

In regard to Michigan, imbedding informants into radical groups in an effort to foil plots isn’t uncommon— do you not think the Michigan group was serious?

That's not what the FBI did in the Whitmer case.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/13/inside-fbis-probe-and-entrapment-of-a-michigan-militia-crew/

[TexasTiger 13,054]

8 minutes ago, KansasTiger said:

That's not what the FBI did in the Whitmer case.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/13/inside-fbis-probe-and-entrapment-of-a-michigan-militia-crew/

With all the proceedings related to January 6th, have you seen any similar outcome or real evidence? 

[KansasTiger 3,256]

3 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

With all the proceedings related to January 6th, have you seen any similar outcome or real evidence? 

With who is prosecuting, where it is being prosecuted, and the ridiculous sentences they're handing out, lets just say I'm not the most trusting guy. Do we get to see all the evidence? Who knows.

It's not as ridiculous to believe this as many of you want. It may be wrong, I mean who knows? But it's not batshit crazy, as you'd say.

[CoffeeTiger 5,186]

Another good portion of the article for those who cant read it: 

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“The finding that 25 percent believe the FBI was responsible for the Jan. 6 attack, sadly, fits in with the general nonsense and lies that are swirling around social and mainstream media,” said Hany Farid, a professor at the School of Information at the University of California at Berkeley.

For example, a 2023 KFF poll last year found 34 percent believed the false claim that coronavirus vaccines have caused sudden deaths for thousands of healthy people, and a 2021 PRRI poll found 15 percent agreeing with a QAnon conspiracy theory that Satan-worshiping pedophiles control government, media and financial worlds.

 

“Whereas 20 years ago we may have argued about how or if to respond to events” such as the Capitol riot, Farid said, “today we are arguing about basic facts that are objectively and easily verifiable. … We should all be greatly concerned for our democracy and societal stability.”

 

Alex R. Piquero, a professor of sociology and criminology at the University of Miami and former head of the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, said people self-select their news and, in doing so, self-select the facts that reinforce what they believe.

Piquero said in an interview that the legitimacy of the 2020 election, skepticism of which motivated the attack on the Capitol, had been upheld in more than 60 court cases and confirmed by countless authorities on both sides of the political aisle.

“Sometimes, for some people, no amount of data is going to change their mind,” Piquero said. “If you were to ask some people, do you trust the airplane you fly in? When you go get medicine from your doctor? It comes from science and data. People are willing to be okay on some of those things that are helpful to them, but when it contradicts their worldview, that’s when it gets fuzzy and unfortunate.”

 

Edited January 4 by CoffeeTiger

[auburnatl1 5,109]

9 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Is bat%#*+ crazy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/04/fbi-conspiracy-jan-6-attack-misinformation/?utm_campaign=wp_politics_am&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_politics

From fake moon landings to the Loch Ness monster, there’s a % of the specifies who will challenge anything they’re told and want to believe something/anything else. It’s cynicism run amok.

[SaltyTiger 7,873]

9 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

You think the FBI instigated the Capitol riots on January 6?

Sure…watch a few Amazon Prime or Netflix series.

 

[TexasTiger 13,054]

3 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Sure…watch a few Amazon Prime or Netflix series.

 

I don’t believe fictional accounts that aren’t on HBO.

[KansasTiger 3,256]

1 hour ago, auburnatl1 said:

From fake moon landings to the Loch Ness monster, there’s a % of the specifies who will challenge anything they’re told and want to believe something/anything else. It’s cynicism run amok.

There's a big difference in believing in the loch Ness monster and believing the FBI, which I just showed entraps extremists, might have done that again. 

[Cardin Drake 1,857]

Let's see. You take a large angry crowd. You add some undercover plants to break some windows and knock down fences.  On one side you shoot tear gas and rubber bullets into the crowd. Then on the other side of the capital you open the doors and escort the crowd in. You've got all the pictures you need to claim an insurrection.  Yep, count me in on the crazy side. Don't find anything unbelievable about that at all.  (Who gave the order to open the doors?  Not much curiosity from the J6 committee there)

Edited January 5 by Cardin Drake

[auburnatl1 5,109]

1 hour ago, KansasTiger said:

There's a big difference in believing in the loch Ness monster and believing the FBI, which I just showed entraps extremists, might have done that again. 

8 years ago the fbi was accused of being “trump land” when they started the Hillary investigation less than 2 weeks before the election. People see what they want to see.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump

Edited January 5 by auburnatl1

[KansasTiger 3,256]

27 minutes ago, auburnatl1 said:

8 years ago the fbi was accused of being “trump land” when they started the Hillary investigation less than 2 weeks before the election. People see what they want to see.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump

Well, you're definitely right about at least one thing. You see what you want...

[creed 1,658]

20 hours ago, KansasTiger said:

I think it's possible

Absolutely...Everybody knows the FBI is the go to social event planner in Washington DC.  😆  

[CoffeeTiger 5,186]

13 hours ago, KansasTiger said:

There's a big difference in believing in the loch Ness monster and believing the FBI, which I just showed entraps extremists, might have done that again. 

 

So we're at the point where we're acknowledging that some of the pro-trump crowd contained extremists....

I personally don't think it takes that big of a leap to say that those extremist did some...extreme stuff...without some big government coverup/operation "forcing" them into it. 

So far, the people who are known to have done damage to the buildings or assaulted officers have been identified and arrested and tried. There is no evidence of these people claiming or proving themselves to be undercover government agents. 

 

There is frankly more physical evidence of the Loch Ness monster existing than there is of any kind of government operation happening within the Jan6 riot. 

[AURex 2,036]

hahahaha

The earth is flat and nobody ever went to the moon and the Titanic was not a real ship.
Hitler had great ideas and was a great leader.
The Civil war had nothing to do with slavery and was just a disagreement about states rights.
Climate is not changing.
Video games cause killings
People of Asian, Hispanic, Pacific Island, any other origin, are "replacement" threat to destroy the U.S.
The U.S. was founded upon Christianity and must destroy the infiltration of all other religions.
Democrats are all pedophiles and sex traffickers
Library books and drag shows convert kids (and adults) into trannys, homosexuals, and child molesting perverts.
Vaccines cause measles, cholera, polio, smallpox, dementia, DNA damage, autism, dengue fever, Alzheimer's, scarlet fever, strokes, heart disease, atherosclerosis, pimples, genetic damage, and a thousand other ailments.
The U.S. will be saved by an uprising of "patriots" on xxx date, which keeps changing endlessly.
Trump will save us from ...... whatever cranks you are into of crazoid hateness.
A Trump dictatorship is the wet dream!

 

[Gowebb11 9,389]

I used to wonder how Jim Jones convinced 900 people to line up and drink cyanide laced Kool-Aid. After watching our populous the past few years, I no longer wonder. 

[homersapien 11,465]

On 1/4/2024 at 7:11 PM, auburnatl1 said:

From fake moon landings to the Loch Ness monster, there’s a % of the specifies who will challenge anything they’re told and want to believe something/anything else. It’s cynicism run amok.

Granted.  But I think the real concern is with the size of that percent, which seems (at least to me) to be growing to a dangerous level.