Terrible News - Auburn Shooting

[dana 0]

@HABOTN

APD chief: "They may bring him out of that house yet." No law enforcement is there now. We know this.

Like I said, if there's a smell in the next few days....

I'd just turn the heat on!

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So what we know-

• someone looking like Desmonte was at this house at one point in time.
  
• 15-20 minute 'dead time' in which the person could have escaped
  
• technology discovered a 'body' in the attic.
  
• technology heard 'breathing and creaking noises' in the attic
  
• and FBI agent was misquoted on 'wrong house'
  

Getting pretty frustrating for us...

[McWeagle 4]

So what we know-

• someone looking like Desmonte was at this house at one point in time.
  
• 15-20 minute 'dead time' in which the person could have escaped
  
• technology discovered a 'body' in the attic.
  
• technology heard 'breathing and creaking noises' in the attic
  
• and FBI agent was misquoted on 'wrong house'
  

Getting pretty frustrating for us...

Imagine how frustrating it is for the people actually working on this.

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@AUAthletics

Remember the #AuburnFamily. http://pic.twitter.com/mN1UVBjy

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

@KaribiDede

Pretty sure we've all been hoaxed. That kid is in the back of a AUPD car headed to Auburn.

Karibi seems to believe that they put him in a car so they could get him back without any commotion. Could explain why the spotlight went out...

I could understand why they wouldn't want anyone to know they were in the process of moving him back to Auburn if they did indeed have him and cover it up. Wouldn't have to worry about any incidents on the road or someone waiting for the arrival in Auburn.

It is amazing how this story has captured the nations attention, mean six or seven were shot in Chicago after this happened. Yet when I was at the gym today people that knew I was a AU grad or had seen me wearing something AU to workout in spoke to me about the incident with a general concern.

Yeah it is amazing seeing as how It HASN'T captured anybody's attention except us. NOT ONE of the national networks are covering this at all. There MAY be an article or two on some news sites, but NOTHING of any significance at all. Like I said earlier, if this involved a different university it WOULD be all over the news, IMO. CNN, FOX, etc...were all at Virginia Tech doing live reports. NONE are there. I'm actually amazed even WSFA is still covering it live at this point...

I can't speak for the larger markets, but small ones like Chicago have been covering it. And remember you are talking about something that happens every single day in the city of Chicago...... and they dedicated time for it on their news coverge in the first segement. Importing stories of shootings is something they do not have to do here. In fact it got more time than the local shootings that involved more victems. No they didn't do like WSFA and cut the Cup to live report, but they don't even do that for local standoffs so don't expect them to do that for something in Montgomery.

It may not be Fox or CNN, but it is the third largest TV market in the United States. If it's getting on the news here its getting national attention.

Not really. If its not being covered consistently on CNN, Fox News, ABC News, CBS News, NBC News it's NOT getting national attention. I don't see how one random tv station in a slightly different part of the country is the reason you consider it getting national attention. It's NOT.. I guess we have VERY DIFFERENT definitions of what national attention is and sorry, but this is NOT it, IMO.

It's not a single, it was all the networks in Chicago.

You DO NOT make the lead in and first segment outside of Chicago unless it is considered national news. If it made the Chicago news then I would bet that it made probably just about every news station in the US. If it didn't capture anyones attention they wouldn't of shown it and bothered updating it and spent more time on the local shootings.

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@TuFive_Back

There will be a candle light vigil on Samford lawn Thursday. More info to come

[RunInRed 16,438]

So in summary, they raided the wrong house? Ummm, ok. Slightly, embarrassing.

On a more serious note...

A source tells me funeral arrangements for former AU players will be held in their respective hometowns. Phillips-Friday; Christian- Sat.

@chambc1

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So in summary, they raided the wrong house? Ummm, ok. Slightly, embarrassing.

I dont like the 'wrong house' comments. This was the right house, according to the calls. "Wrong" makes it seem as though the guy was hiding next door...Yes, he wasnt there, but this was the correct house.

[FatherUppercut 48]

@KaribiDede

Pretty sure we've all been hoaxed. That kid is in the back of a AUPD car headed to Auburn.

Karibi seems to believe that they put him in a car so they could get him back without any commotion. Could explain why the spotlight went out...

I could understand why they wouldn't want anyone to know they were in the process of moving him back to Auburn if they did indeed have him and cover it up. Wouldn't have to worry about any incidents on the road or someone waiting for the arrival in Auburn.

It is amazing how this story has captured the nations attention, mean six or seven were shot in Chicago after this happened. Yet when I was at the gym today people that knew I was a AU grad or had seen me wearing something AU to workout in spoke to me about the incident with a general concern.

Yeah it is amazing seeing as how It HASN'T captured anybody's attention except us. NOT ONE of the national networks are covering this at all. There MAY be an article or two on some news sites, but NOTHING of any significance at all. Like I said earlier, if this involved a different university it WOULD be all over the news, IMO. CNN, FOX, etc...were all at Virginia Tech doing live reports. NONE are there. I'm actually amazed even WSFA is still covering it live at this point...

I can't speak for the larger markets, but small ones like Chicago have been covering it. And remember you are talking about something that happens every single day in the city of Chicago...... and they dedicated time for it on their news coverge in the first segement. Importing stories of shootings is something they do not have to do here. In fact it got more time than the local shootings that involved more victems. No they didn't do like WSFA and cut the Cup to live report, but they don't even do that for local standoffs so don't expect them to do that for something in Montgomery.

It may not be Fox or CNN, but it is the third largest TV market in the United States. If it's getting on the news here its getting national attention.

Not really. If its not being covered consistently on CNN, Fox News, ABC News, CBS News, NBC News it's NOT getting national attention. I don't see how one random tv station in a slightly different part of the country is the reason you consider it getting national attention. It's NOT.. I guess we have VERY DIFFERENT definitions of what national attention is and sorry, but this is NOT it, IMO.

It's not a single, it was all the networks in Chicago.

You DO NOT make the lead in and first segment outside of Chicago unless it is considered national news. If it made the Chicago news then I would bet that it made probably just about every news station in the US. If it didn't capture anyones attention they wouldn't of shown it and bothered updating it and spent more time on the local shootings.

For what it's worth, CNN has been running this story off and on all day. I think the national level is doing this story due dilligence. I highly doubt it's going to be 24/7 coverage anywhere except Alabama. I'm sure triple murders happen all the time in every state so I don't see why this would make the front page of Chicago papers. Don't sweat it guys, plenty of people know what is going on in Auburn.

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Chizik presser live, on oanow.com. Mic is far from the action, so cant hear a whole lot.

[RunInRed 16,438]

Recap of the Chizik presser...

Chizik: "It's hard to stand up here and try to navigate these uncharted waters."

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Chizik: "It's a long road ahead of us. We've got a long road of grieving, and everybody has a different way of doing that."

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Chizik said not the right time for players to talk to the media. "I'm not ready to do this, but it's part of my job."

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Chizik: "Auburn law enforcement, starting with Tommy Dawson, did an outstanding job of communication with me that night."

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Chizik's reaction when hearing the news? "Disbelief, outrage, devastation."

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Gene Chizik: Told players to go home immediately on Saturday night/Sunday morning.

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Chizik on players: "There were a lot of emotions spilled out. This is a grieving process. There's no right and no wrong."

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Chizik on Eric Mack: "He's expected to make a full recovery. His mother is here in town. He feels very blessed."

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Do you have any thing to say to Desmonte Leonard? Chizik: "No, I don't."

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Chizik on Auburn: "This is one of the safest college towns in the country." Cites US News top-10 ranking on places to live.

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Chizik: "I'm not worried about football season. I don't care about football season. This is about young guys getting past a tragic event."

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Chizik said transportation would be provided for anyone who would like to attend services for Christian and Phillips.

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Chizik said he talked to victims' families Saturday night. Preferred not to say whether he was one who told them news about deaths.

Tweets via @auburnbeat

[RunInRed 16,438]

http://www.al.com/sp...izik_discu.html

[WarEagleDG 6]

That's a hard position for CGC to be in. Glad he's handling it so well.

[tgr4lfe 220]

Ladies and Gentlemen, we've got a class act for a head coach.

WAR EAGLE!!!

RIP Ed and LP

[Tigermike 3,040]

Auburn's Gene Chizik is the right coach in a crisis

Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 5:09 AM Updated: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 5:10 AM

By Kevin Scarbinsky, Birmingham News

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama - Gene Chizik may not be the most dynamic college football coach in the country.

He may not be the most enter­taining speaker in his profession.

He may not be the media's go-to guy for opinions on everything from conference expansion to a four­-team playoff.

But if the Auburn coach has proved anything in his three full seasons on the job, beyond his abil­ity to win a national title at a pro­gram that hadn't done it in 53 years, it's this: He has few peers when it comes to keeping his head when it seems everyone around him is losing theirs.

That quality has never been more important to him than it is now as he tries to help his football team grieve for two fallen former team­mates and, at some point, recover from that grief.

Ed Christian and Ladarious Phillips may have left the team for different reasons, but they didn't leave behind the friends they'd made on the team. Not until Satur­day night, when they were tragically gunned down at a pool party at an Auburn apartment complex.

As police narrow the search for the suspect that killed Christian, Phillips and Demario Pitts and wounded John Robertson, Xavier Moss and current Auburn player Eric Mack -- Moss and Mack have been treated and released -- the football program searches for an­swers.

Chizik may not have those answers, but he has a faith and a belief system that's evident in good times and necessary when things go terribly wrong.

His statement Sunday began by remembering the victims and reaching out to their families. Only then did he address the impact this tragedy could have on his team.

"We have a lot of people on our football team that are hurting right now, and we're going to do everything we can to help them get through this," Chizik said in that statement. "We are relieved that Eric Mack, who was also a victim in this incident, is expected to make a full recovery. This is a very trying time for everyone involved, and I would just ask that you lift up the victims and their families in your prayers."

It was simple and straightforward.

It was Chizik in a time of crisis.

He's had more than a little practice.

He's never faced anything quite like this during his time at Auburn, but his tenure as head coach on the Plain has hardly been a smooth walk on a soft path.

He was criticized for taking the job in the first place, for thinking he could win big at Auburn when he hadn't at Iowa State. He ignored the critics.

His integrity was questioned as his best recruit, Cam Newton, led the Tigers toward a national championship despite suspicion about why the Heisman winner chose this school at that time, suspicion provided by the actions of the player's own father.

Chizik didn't dignify the questions during an investigation, publicly and privately supporting Newton. When that probe failed to produce a single major indictment, the coach didn't throw the results back in anyone's face.

Along the way to that title, he guided his team back from a seemingly insurmountable deficit in the most hostile atmosphere in Iron Bowl history.

Last year, he quickly removed from the team four players accused of armed robbery. He was slower to take that drastic step with Mike Dyer, who needed discipline for different reasons, for an attitude and actions unbecoming the best player on the team, but eventually Chizik sidelined him, too.

There are still questions about the head coach heading into his fourth season, about his ability to adapt and survive in the face of a rival at the height of its powers. Can he rebuild the roster to the point that it'll withstand the type of wild swing from 14-0 to 8-5?

Those questions can't be answered in June. Other questions can.

Who can be a steadying influence when six people are shot and three of them die and two of them were a part of the team not long ago? Who can be a leader when leadership isn't measured on a scoreboard?

They don't pay bonuses for that kind of football coach, but that's not really necessary. At a time like this, a time no coach wants to face and far too many are forced to endure, it's a bonus to have a coach like Chizik.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/06/auburns_gene_chizik_is_the_rig.html

[quietfan 233]

Auburn's Gene Chizik is the right coach in a crisis

Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 5:09 AM Updated: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 5:10 AM

By Kevin Scarbinsky, Birmingham News

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama - Gene Chizik may not be the most dynamic college football coach in the country.

He may not be the most enter­taining speaker in his profession.

He may not be the media's go-to guy for opinions on everything from conference expansion to a four­-team playoff.

But if the Auburn coach has proved anything in his three full seasons on the job, beyond his abil­ity to win a national title at a pro­gram that hadn't done it in 53 years, it's this: He has few peers when it comes to keeping his head when it seems everyone around him is losing theirs.

That quality has never been more important to him than it is now as he tries to help his football team grieve for two fallen former team­mates and, at some point, recover from that grief.

Ed Christian and Ladarious Phillips may have left the team for different reasons, but they didn't leave behind the friends they'd made on the team. Not until Satur­day night, when they were tragically gunned down at a pool party at an Auburn apartment complex.

As police narrow the search for the suspect that killed Christian, Phillips and Demario Pitts and wounded John Robertson, Xavier Moss and current Auburn player Eric Mack -- Moss and Mack have been treated and released -- the football program searches for an­swers.

Chizik may not have those answers, but he has a faith and a belief system that's evident in good times and necessary when things go terribly wrong.

His statement Sunday began by remembering the victims and reaching out to their families. Only then did he address the impact this tragedy could have on his team.

"We have a lot of people on our football team that are hurting right now, and we're going to do everything we can to help them get through this," Chizik said in that statement. "We are relieved that Eric Mack, who was also a victim in this incident, is expected to make a full recovery. This is a very trying time for everyone involved, and I would just ask that you lift up the victims and their families in your prayers."

It was simple and straightforward.

It was Chizik in a time of crisis.

He's had more than a little practice.

He's never faced anything quite like this during his time at Auburn, but his tenure as head coach on the Plain has hardly been a smooth walk on a soft path.

He was criticized for taking the job in the first place, for thinking he could win big at Auburn when he hadn't at Iowa State. He ignored the critics.

His integrity was questioned as his best recruit, Cam Newton, led the Tigers toward a national championship despite suspicion about why the Heisman winner chose this school at that time, suspicion provided by the actions of the player's own father.

Chizik didn't dignify the questions during an investigation, publicly and privately supporting Newton. When that probe failed to produce a single major indictment, the coach didn't throw the results back in anyone's face.

Along the way to that title, he guided his team back from a seemingly insurmountable deficit in the most hostile atmosphere in Iron Bowl history.

Last year, he quickly removed from the team four players accused of armed robbery. He was slower to take that drastic step with Mike Dyer, who needed discipline for different reasons, for an attitude and actions unbecoming the best player on the team, but eventually Chizik sidelined him, too.

There are still questions about the head coach heading into his fourth season, about his ability to adapt and survive in the face of a rival at the height of its powers. Can he rebuild the roster to the point that it'll withstand the type of wild swing from 14-0 to 8-5?

Those questions can't be answered in June. Other questions can.

Who can be a steadying influence when six people are shot and three of them die and two of them were a part of the team not long ago? Who can be a leader when leadership isn't measured on a scoreboard?

They don't pay bonuses for that kind of football coach, but that's not really necessary. At a time like this, a time no coach wants to face and far too many are forced to endure, it's a bonus to have a coach like Chizik.

http://www.al.com/sp...is_the_rig.html

[dana 0]

I am more proud of that article on CGC than I would ever be of 13 NC. I love to win games however give me a leader of our team with that type of conviction, faith, and beliefs and I will take that over other head coaches in the SEC anyday! Hands down! He is a true example of a role model!

Thank you CG for being there to help our University!

[Tigermike 3,040]

From the

Auburn Tigers - Official Page

http://www.facebook.com/AUAthletics

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Good video from ESPN (for once...)

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8038958

[Bottomfeeder 244]

I am more proud of that article on CGC than I would ever be of 13 NC. I love to win games however give me a leader of our team with that type of conviction, faith, and beliefs and I will take that over other head coaches in the SEC anyday! Hands down! He is a true example of a role model!

Thank you CG for being there to help our University!

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The man has unmatched integrity and loyalty. JJ picked the right man for the job.

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I am more proud of that article on CGC than I would ever be of 13 NC. I love to win games however give me a leader of our team with that type of conviction, faith, and beliefs and I will take that over other head coaches in the SEC anyday! Hands down! He is a true example of a role model!

Thank you CG for being there to help our University!

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The man has unmatched integrity and loyalty. JJ picked the right man for the job.

The August before the 2010 NC season started, my mom brought home from Gulf Shores a Christian magazine, and it had Chizik and his wife on the cover. Spoke about how they live their life, strong in faith. Now looking back on it, seemed like a wonderful way to start that year!

[rockmastermike 0]

I am more proud of that article on CGC than I would ever be of 13 NC. I love to win games however give me a leader of our team with that type of conviction, faith, and beliefs and I will take that over other head coaches in the SEC anyday! Hands down! He is a true example of a role model!

Thank you CG for being there to help our University!

Big +1

WDE

[wegle1 0]

Auburn's Gene Chizik is the right coach in a crisis

Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 5:09 AM Updated: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 5:10 AM

By Kevin Scarbinsky, Birmingham News

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama - Gene Chizik may not be the most dynamic college football coach in the country.

He may not be the most enter­taining speaker in his profession.

He may not be the media's go-to guy for opinions on everything from conference expansion to a four­-team playoff.

But if the Auburn coach has proved anything in his three full seasons on the job, beyond his abil­ity to win a national title at a pro­gram that hadn't done it in 53 years, it's this: He has few peers when it comes to keeping his head when it seems everyone around him is losing theirs.

That quality has never been more important to him than it is now as he tries to help his football team grieve for two fallen former team­mates and, at some point, recover from that grief.

Ed Christian and Ladarious Phillips may have left the team for different reasons, but they didn't leave behind the friends they'd made on the team. Not until Satur­day night, when they were tragically gunned down at a pool party at an Auburn apartment complex.

As police narrow the search for the suspect that killed Christian, Phillips and Demario Pitts and wounded John Robertson, Xavier Moss and current Auburn player Eric Mack -- Moss and Mack have been treated and released -- the football program searches for an­swers.

Chizik may not have those answers, but he has a faith and a belief system that's evident in good times and necessary when things go terribly wrong.

His statement Sunday began by remembering the victims and reaching out to their families. Only then did he address the impact this tragedy could have on his team.

"We have a lot of people on our football team that are hurting right now, and we're going to do everything we can to help them get through this," Chizik said in that statement. "We are relieved that Eric Mack, who was also a victim in this incident, is expected to make a full recovery. This is a very trying time for everyone involved, and I would just ask that you lift up the victims and their families in your prayers."

It was simple and straightforward.

It was Chizik in a time of crisis.

He's had more than a little practice.

He's never faced anything quite like this during his time at Auburn, but his tenure as head coach on the Plain has hardly been a smooth walk on a soft path.

He was criticized for taking the job in the first place, for thinking he could win big at Auburn when he hadn't at Iowa State. He ignored the critics.

His integrity was questioned as his best recruit, Cam Newton, led the Tigers toward a national championship despite suspicion about why the Heisman winner chose this school at that time, suspicion provided by the actions of the player's own father.

Chizik didn't dignify the questions during an investigation, publicly and privately supporting Newton. When that probe failed to produce a single major indictment, the coach didn't throw the results back in anyone's face.

Along the way to that title, he guided his team back from a seemingly insurmountable deficit in the most hostile atmosphere in Iron Bowl history.

Last year, he quickly removed from the team four players accused of armed robbery. He was slower to take that drastic step with Mike Dyer, who needed discipline for different reasons, for an attitude and actions unbecoming the best player on the team, but eventually Chizik sidelined him, too.

There are still questions about the head coach heading into his fourth season, about his ability to adapt and survive in the face of a rival at the height of its powers. Can he rebuild the roster to the point that it'll withstand the type of wild swing from 14-0 to 8-5?

Those questions can't be answered in June. Other questions can.

Who can be a steadying influence when six people are shot and three of them die and two of them were a part of the team not long ago? Who can be a leader when leadership isn't measured on a scoreboard?

They don't pay bonuses for that kind of football coach, but that's not really necessary. At a time like this, a time no coach wants to face and far too many are forced to endure, it's a bonus to have a coach like Chizik.

http://www.al.com/sp...is_the_rig.html

multiplied by 10

[AUZoom 11]

I am more proud of that article on CGC than I would ever be of 13 NC. I love to win games however give me a leader of our team with that type of conviction, faith, and beliefs and I will take that over other head coaches in the SEC anyday! Hands down! He is a true example of a role model!

Thank you CG for being there to help our University!

THIS 1000%!!!

[BamaGrad03 0]

Apparently the same chopper is circling a specific location again tonight. Interesting...