Play the season without fans at the stadium

[AUApostle 7,651]

Here is a phased plan put forth by HOK Architects:

https://www.hok.com/news/2020-05/turning-on-the-lights-post-quarantine-what-a-phased-re-entry-for-sports-could-look-like/

[AuburnTiger4Life 2,225]

Just let people make their own choice imo. If they think they’ll be at risk from going then don’t go. If not, have fun. Just encourage people to practice social distancing and good hygiene the best they can at the stadium and when they order tickets 

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

On 5/23/2020 at 6:20 PM, Eagle Eye 7 said:

It’s not a matter of opening it’s a matter of how we open. I have had times I have had to go into dangerous situations because I had no other choice . What I did have was the sense to be educated about how I went in. Same hear . I don’t understand why people feel criminalized by wearing a face mask. I’m in the middle of contact training class thru John Hopkins so I maybe understand things a little better than others but this I can tell you, if everyone wore a face mask ( correctly) we would almost completely eliminate it. 

I disagree and so do a lot of medical professionals.

[DAG 33,983]

I will say that at this moment, I am going to assume everyone or close to it has been exposed to COVID. It is just so many carriers out there who are asymptomatic. I floated to a step-down COVID unit, and I will say of the 90 percent of those folks who were either COVID positive or pending were discharged because they were asymptomatic or ended up not being COVID Positive. Most were verified COVID positive now. Currently, in my hospital, which is the biggest in the Milwaukee Metro area, the feel is the MDs are now hyper-vigilant in COVID testing, and I agree. Heck, last week, I had a patient clearly septic, but they forego this to prioritize COVID testing. Of course, they weren't but were indeed septic. I guess now my position would be, if you are experiencing the multiple symptoms, definitely get to the hospital. I know diarrhea is a consistent symptom, but heck that can be a stomach bug. Yet, we have people with diarrhea who come to the ED, go to a COVID unit for a day just to wait until the results are finished, only to find out they are negative, and the diarrhea is all good now. It is all very confusing for your frontline staff. Still, I advocate, even if you are doing you, to try to be as safe as possible.

DAG OUT. 

[McLoofus 35,182]

A doctor here or there might dissent, but theirs very much is in fact the dissenting opinion against a lot of research and evidence. 

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micro-droplets fell out of the air within 1.5 meters of the person who was wearing a mask, versus 5 meters for those not wearing masks.

 

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Given all of the laboratory and epidemiological evidence, the low cost of wearing masks – which can be made at home with no tools – and the potential to slow COVID-19 transmission with widescale use, policymakers should ensure that everyone wears a mask in public.

 

https://theconversation.com/masks-help-stop-the-spread-of-coronavirus-the-science-is-simple-and-im-one-of-100-experts-urging-governors-to-require-public-mask-wearing-138507

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

2 hours ago, McLoofus said:

A doctor here or there might dissent, but theirs very much is in fact the dissenting opinion against a lot of research and evidence. 

 

 

https://theconversation.com/masks-help-stop-the-spread-of-coronavirus-the-science-is-simple-and-im-one-of-100-experts-urging-governors-to-require-public-mask-wearing-138507

So no need to wear a mask in public if you practice self distancing

[oracle79 3,569]

2 hours ago, McLoofus said:

https://theconversation.com/masks-help-stop-the-spread-of-coronavirus-the-science-is-simple-and-im-one-of-100-experts-urging-governors-to-require-public-mask-wearing-138507

Yeah, but did they study anyone other than Lou Holtz and Sylvester the cat?

[McLoofus 35,182]

Just now, oracle79 said:

Yeah, but did they study anyone other than Lou Holtz and Sylvester the cat?

Funny, but 100,000 people haven't died because they literally hocked loogies on each other. 

There's a lot more gross stuff coming out of our faces when we just talk or breathe than we realize. 

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

3 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Funny, but 100,000 people haven't died because they literally hocked loogies on each other. 

There's a lot more gross stuff coming out of our faces when we just talk or breathe than we realize. 

Now we can sure agree on that. Just read some posts.😀

[I_M4_AU 7,841]

Requiring mask wearing in public is a bad move.  Legislating  morality usually doesn’t work and creates more problems.  Just explain your stance and let the people decide what is best.  Is this mask wearing only during the outbreaks or is it going to be the *new normal*?  If you like this type of control, you like big government.

[AuburnTiger4Life 2,225]

I wish we could get some kind of A-day in July. Who cares if there’s no fans there 

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

WHO's opinion on wearing masks:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/who-guidance-healthy-people-wear-masks-around-coronavirus-patients

[BJCrawford 1,568]

Not offering an opinion either way on masks but heard something on the news tonight about the varying opinions of so much related to this virus. It sounds like there is not scientific consensus on any one opinion. It seems even the smartest out there simply don’t know for sure. I have whiplash trying to understand the directive of the day. so I have decided to use my own common sense and personal responsibility and hopefully I will make good choices.

[Mikey 16,604]

On 5/28/2020 at 9:29 PM, Proud Tiger said:

WHO's opinion on wearing masks:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/who-guidance-healthy-people-wear-masks-around-coronavirus-patients

Quoting from the article:

"The World Health Organization is recommending healthy people, including those who don't exhibit COVID-19 symptoms, only wear masks when taking care of someone infected with the contagion, a sharp contrast from the advice given by American public health officials who recommend everyone wear a mask in public.

"If you do not have any repository symptoms such as fever, cough or runny nose, you do not need to wear a mask," Dr. April Baller, a public health specialist for the WHO, says in a video on the world health body's website posted in March. "Masks should only be used by health care workers, caretakers or by people who are sick with symptoms of fever and cough."

The bottom line is, nobody knows how to approach this coronavirus situation. We don't even know if the efforts we have undertaken so far have made one iota of difference. The previous post, by @BJCrawford is the only course of action that makes any sense at all. The government needs to get out of this, apparently their experts don't know any more about it than I do and my best source of information is Dr. Wilt's Microbiology class at AU, several decades ago.

[japantiger 4,051]

22 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

Requiring mask wearing in public is a bad move.  Legislating  morality usually doesn’t work and creates more problems.  Just explain your stance and let the people decide what is best.  Is this mask wearing only during the outbreaks or is it going to be the *new normal*?  If you like this type of control, you like big government.

[japantiger 4,051]

12 hours ago, Proud Tiger said:

WHO's opinion on wearing masks:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/who-guidance-healthy-people-wear-masks-around-coronavirus-patients

And from May 21, the New England Journal of Med....by all means, let's all wear talismans.  Play the games.

We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.

It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals.

[oracle79 3,569]

I'd rather wear garlic around my neck - that might help with social distancing. 🤢

[I_M4_AU 7,841]

2 hours ago, japantiger said:

And from May 21, the New England Journal of Med....by all means, let's all wear talismans.  Play the games.

We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.

It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals.

We’ve created a new reason for #Karen.

 

 

 

[abw0004 10,113]

So today I purchased my season tickets and season parking pass for the 2020 season.  I did it with the understanding that if there was no season or it was cut short I would be refunded.  I did this for two reasons:  #1  I would not lose my seats for 2021.  #2  If it is deemed safe I will go.  I will not go if the medical professionals say it is too risky.

[oracle79 3,569]

1 hour ago, abw0004 said:

the medical professionals

Just out of curiosity, which ones?😉

[japantiger 4,051]

The answer has been revealed to us in the last 24 hours.  We need to hold all games during riots.  Apparently the evil coronavirus can't be transmitted by large, packed  crowds burning buildings and stealing TV's and liquor.  

And just like that, Pandemic over...Play the games

[tidepunisher 2]

Got a brand new recruiting episode of the Jboy Show!

 

https://anchor.fm/jake-crain/episodes/Recruiting-Roundup-w-Jboy--Tay--and-Eli-Gravitt-eepap5

[Mikey 16,604]

On 5/30/2020 at 9:47 AM, japantiger said:

The answer has been revealed to us in the last 24 hours.  We need to hold all games during riots.  Apparently the evil Wuhan flu can't be transmitted by large, packed  crowds burning buildings and stealing TV's and liquor.  

And just like that, Pandemic over...Play the games

Sadly, the coronavirus doesn't seem to bother 15 to 45 year olds and those are the ones doing the rioting.

[McLoofus 35,182]

Somebody left the back door open.

[gr82be 14,425]

58 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Somebody left the back door open.

I hate when that happens