Allen Greene needs to step up concerning vaccinations

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14 minutes ago, auburnphan said:

I know getting through the 6th grade was a great accomplishment for you, congrats buddy.

I rather have a six grade education than lie about what you have done and joke on me ! 

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17 hours ago, Brad_ATX said:

You spent much time around college freshmen and sophomores?  Because believe me, they should not be treated like grown ass men.

Amen to that brother! As most of us (any of us that have ever had teenager children at home as parents) probably joke most the time with friends and family about the "fact" that "teenagers all think of themselves as invincible."

 

 

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6 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

I’ve been listening to The Drive podcast this morning. The fundamental lack of understanding of the virus and vaccine by the callers is baffling. There were callers saying that players who have had coronavirus have no need to take the vaccine. There were callers saying stuff like “if Harsin has the vaccine, why would he test positive”. There are even people saying, “listen to the doctors and experts and not scientists like Fauci”. It’s just astounding at this point how willfully ignorant people are. And Bill Cameron and Dan Peck should be embarrassed, that they aren’t correcting these callers. There’s no turning this thing around any time soon, I’m afraid. 

It's the cost of lost credibility. If you think the likes of Fauci and the media aren't largely responsible, idk what to tell you.

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22 minutes ago, DAG said:

The cost of hospital readmissions is enormous, estimated to be in the vicinity of $26 billion annually (Wilson, 2019), so it’s no wonder Medicare is working to reduce this amount.

Medicare just like a lot of businesses are trying to get people to just do things to help prevent problems. That’s why most of us do periodic maintenance on our vehicles and homes so we don’t have to deal with catastrophic problems later . Again it’s just common sense. 

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1 minute ago, AUght2win said:

It's the cost of lost credibility. If you think the likes of Fauci and the media aren't largely responsible, idk what to tell you.

No it’s not Dr.Fauci it this foolishness of folks to listen to some person hid behind a keyboard calling their self “Q”. Dr Fauci has led the US infectious disease group for 40 years through many different administrations. He is by far one of the top infectious disease specialist in the world. He is doing exactly what he has done for the past 49 years and that’s to protect mankind. Come back when you preform the first act to help mankind that if you ever do. 

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3 minutes ago, Eagle Eye 7 said:

Again it’s just common sense. 

You would think, but unfortunately it is not. You would be surprised at the things I hear at my practice now, even in mental health. 

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14 hours ago, DAG said:

Actions speaks louder than words. CBH actions spoke for itself, just like the short man from Tuscaloosa. Consequences speak even louder. The best thing anyone can do who is advocating is get vaccinated and spread information. Wasting your energy on folks, who AREN'T going to do it, is a fools game. That is how healthcare professionals get burnt out and have terribly bad mental health conditions. You can't save everybody. Some people have to learn the hard way.

Yep..like ending up in the ICU on a ventilator and "begging for the vaccination." Too late then!

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1 minute ago, DAG said:

You would think, but unfortunately it is not. You would be surprised at the things I hear at my practice now, even in mental health. 

Yes I am amazed even by family and friends I know. I mean when I base my opinion on something someone said, I want to make sure they have the credibility to make such recommendation. These folks basing their opinion on folks like Rand Paul who’s Dr licenses  was pulled by AMA  and he wasn’t a specialist in infections anyway. Or some fake on tv selling bleach to drink. Heck people in Mississippi won’t use certified vaccine are now using horse worming medicine. Let that soak in for a minute. 

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2 minutes ago, Eagle Eye 7 said:

No it’s not Dr.Fauci it this foolishness of folks to listen to some person hid behind a keyboard calling their self “Q”. Dr Fauci has led the US infectious disease group for 40 years through many different administrations. He is by far one of the top infectious disease specialist in the world. He is doing exactly what he has done for the past 49 years and that’s to protect mankind. Come back when you preform the first act to help mankind that if you ever do. 

You realize being a lemming works both ways, right? Being a Fauci stan is no better than being a Q kook. Fauci has tried to disavow the lab leak theory (which is now all but confirmed) and is STILL trying to be a proponent of gain of function research. Being an expert in your field doesn't make you a wise or moral person. Double masking, trying to do away permanently with handshakes, and the lies about the WIV lab should be enough for a sane person to realize this guy's word isn't gospel.

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Just now, au701948 said:

Yep..like ending up in the ICU on a ventilator and "begging for the vaccination." Too late then!

Yep. I am of the belief, that if you choose not to get vaccinated, I think you should waive the rights to get an ICU bed. That might seem heartless, but the ramifications are elective surgeries and other people who actually do need ICU beds are now being held on the med surge to prioritize COVID patients. 

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14 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Nope. It would certainly help if many who know better would stop enabling the idiots because of political solidarity and encourage them to do the obvious right thing instead. But they're dug in so people will keep filling up hospitals and dying for no reason.

Let’s just hope that the people that die are the ones that are able to choose that fate and not the one that aren’t able to.

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13 minutes ago, AUght2win said:

It's the cost of lost credibility. If you think the likes of Fauci and the media aren't largely responsible, idk what to tell you.

Who is more credible?  Some guy on Facebook or Youtube?  You cannot expect total consistency in messaging when responding to a virus that itself changes and public adoption of guidelines is spotty.

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6 minutes ago, AUght2win said:

You realize being a lemming works both ways, right? Being a Fauci stan is no better than being a Q kook. Fauci has tried to disavow the lab leak theory (which is now all but confirmed) and is STILL trying to be a proponent of gain of function research. Being an expert in your field doesn't make you a wise or moral person. Double masking, trying to do away permanently with handshakes, and the lies about the WIV lab should be enough for a sane person to realize this guy's word isn't gospel.

No that’s not true. Dr. Fauci said early on that this was not a virus created in a lab . That is still true today. What some are referring to us whether a lab accident happened. And that is possible but it is still highly more likely that it happened naturally just like ever other Covid has ever happened. 

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2 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

Let’s just hope that the people that die are the ones that are able to choose that fate and not the one that aren’t able to.

Yes but now children are dying without a choice and that’s a shame and totally unnecessary . 

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"If they don't like healthcare, they are free to choose another profession."

I hope the author sits a spell with this until the irony sinks in.

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Just now, Eagle Eye 7 said:

No that’s not true. Dr. Fauci said early on that this was a virus created in a lab . That is still true today. What some are referring to us whether a lab accident happened. And that is possible but it is still highly more likely that it happened naturally just like ever other Covid has ever happened. 

Wooooow. Don't ever, ever, ever criticize another person for being misinformed. That's what is so repulsive about how guys like you come off - the level of arrogance mixed with absolutely no self-awareness of how misinformed you are. The irony is fantastic  

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Just now, Eagle Eye 7 said:

Yes but now children are dying without a choice and that’s a shame and totally unnecessary . 

And that's why these anti-vaxxers and anti-mask mandate leaders can well and truly go **** themselves with a baseball bat. Personal responsibility my ass. Spoiled, selfish, coddled crybabies.

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13 minutes ago, DAG said:

Yep. I am of the belief, that if you choose not to get vaccinated, I think you should waive the rights to get an ICU bed. That might seem heartless, but the ramifications are elective surgeries and other people who actually do need ICU beds are now being held on the med surge to prioritize COVID patients. 

My gma, who’s plugged into the Montgomery hospital system, opines that it’d be something many nurses would be okay with if the option arose 

I think it’s at least on the minds of the ones on the ground being worked half to death 

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Just now, Dual-Threat Rigby said:

My gma, who’s plugged into the Montgomery hospital system, opines that it’d be something many nurses would be okay with if the option arose 

I think it’s at least on the minds of the ones on the ground being worked half to death 

It's a well open secret tbh. 

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It’s the funniest s*** that people say this thing isn’t as serious as it looks and we have negative ICU beds 

They’re stuffing you in a corner and working on you like they do in post apocalyptic movies bro

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59 minutes ago, DAG said:

We do like healthcare hence why most of us are still there short staff , dealing with folks who choose not to follow simple instructions and I am not just talking about COVID. A good majority of people inpatient is due to their own abilities of not taking care of themselves, which is why the healthcare system is insanely expensive. If majority of us chose to go somewhere else, you would be having to go out of the country for care. Or you can go to Canada where they tell you who you have to see and they have even longer wait times than our country. Hilarious take. 

Hi DAG. It is a shame that we cannot morally triage the victims of Covid coming into the hospitals right now and treat first the most likely to survive from a Covid Infection (someone hospitalized that has received their full complement/dosage of a specific vaccine and currently comprise approximately 3%(+/-) of the hospitalizations for Covid). Then, secondarily treat the non-vaccinated 97% group.

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1 hour ago, DAG said:

No non-compliance is the reason for healthcare cost. There is a reason why hospitals get paid extra money to decrease re-admission rates. IT COST A LOT OF MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF FOLKS, ESPECIALLY THE SAME FOLKS OVER AND OVER.

Amen!

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1 minute ago, au701948 said:

Hi DAG. It is a shame that we cannot morally triage the victims of Covid coming into the hospitals right now and treat first the most likely to survive from a Covid Infection (someone hospitalized that has received their full complement/dosage of a specific vaccine and currently comprise approximately 3%(+/-) of the hospitalizations for Covid). Then, secondarily treat the non-vaccinated 97% group.

It is hard...It is very hard. I can't believe someone would say if you don't like healthcare you can choose another profession. We love healthcare and I love the bedside. But the bedside isn't the bedside anymore. It is the same when people said we signed up for this. Um we didn't sign up to be disrespected at the bedside. To treat people who don't respect us and purposely not follow hospital protocol while in the hospital. To have to wear ten different hats while also trying our best to keep up. There is a significant nursing shortage right now and the people who are still there busting their asses, working double time are the ones who probably wake up every day in an ethic dilemma. I can't speak for others but I know at times, I definitely woke up and asked myself "Why am I even doing this?" Than I think about the patients who need me, but ,more importantly my brothers and sisters on the front-line who look to me to be there. This is why I don't call in, this is why I keep pushing, etc. It is not because of the money. Unless, you are a traveler, you don't make the money. It is not because the PTO...What is that? We do it because of the ethical code within us, but a lot of people are now walking away and I understand why. 

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6 minutes ago, Dual-Threat Rigby said:

It’s the funniest s*** that people say this thing isn’t as serious as it looks and we have negative ICU beds 

They’re stuffing you in a corner and working on you like they do in post apocalyptic movies bro

Funny how it is all just "The Big Lie" or "A Conspiracy Theory" until you actually contract Covid and you are stretched out on the hospital floor waiting your turn to be treated. Just ask some of the idiot Republican Governors, Texas and Florida, to name a few..ask them how well their political but not scientifically motivated "No Mask Mandates" are helping.

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4 minutes ago, DAG said:

It is hard...It is very hard. I can't believe someone would say if you don't like healthcare you can choose another profession. We love healthcare and I love the bedside. But the bedside isn't the bedside anymore. It is the same when people said we signed up for this. Um we didn't sign up to be disrespected at the bedside. To treat people who don't respect us and purposely not follow hospital protocol while in the hospital. To have to wear ten different hats while also trying our best to keep up. There is a significant nursing shortage right now and the people who are still there busting their asses, working double time are the ones who probably wake up every day in an ethic dilemma. I can't speak for others but I know at times, I definitely woke up and asked myself "Why am I even doing this?" Than I think about the patients who need me, but ,more importantly my brothers and sisters on the front-line who look to me to be there. This is why I don't call in, this is why I keep pushing, etc. It is not because of the money. Unless, you are a traveler, you don't make the money. It is not because the PTO...What is that? We do it because of the ethical code within us, but a lot of people are now walking away and I understand why. 

I can't imagine. I have a neighbor that has a relative that is a a Nurse and she says that so many nurses in the hospital are close to quitting due to the mental stress as you just described. Treating the same people repeatedly for not following medical protocol or just the disrespectful nature of the patients who lash out because they now "know" in their own heart they didn't protect themselves and want to blame others.