2014 4* DT Josh Frazier (Alabama signee)

[IronMan70 3,277]

Yet, oy vey.

[ellitor 33,114]

Yet, oy vey.

Yeah. Sorry.

[icanthearyou 4,463]

This sounds good

There's some of that buzz!

Unfortunately for him he is not at the top of the DT want list for the staff at the moment and currently not a take.

Who are our top targets? The recruiting list says Shaw and Frazier.

[CameronCrazy 1,076]

This sounds good

There's some of that buzz!

Unfortunately for him he is not at the top of the DT want list for the staff at the moment and currently not a take.

E, can you please elaborate on this? I trust the coaches and I'm certainly not questioning your information, I just don't understand who would be higher on our board at this point. After next year, we are going to be hurting at DT with the loss of Wright, Blackson, and Whitaker, so I would think that it's extremely important to get some big time DT's to be ready to step in for 2015.

[Tivo48 31]

This sounds good

There's some of that buzz!

Unfortunately for him he is not at the top of the DT want list for the staff at the moment and currently not a take.

E, can you please elaborate on this? I trust the coaches and I'm certainly not questioning your information, I just don't understand who would be higher on our board at this point. After next year, we are going to be hurting at DT with the loss of Wright, Blackson, and Whitaker, so I would think that it's extremely important to get some big time DT's to be ready to step in for 2015.

Granted this is probably better left for E, but with Daniels at least getting some work in at DT that gives us him, Adams and Bradley from this past class seeing quality minutes. While we lose a lot, we're also in the mix for some big time DTs in the next cycle, so loading up on DTs may not be as big of a priority this class. All this is being said without me checking our roster to actually look at numbers though so I may be way off base

[ellitor 33,114]

E, can you please elaborate on this? I trust the coaches and I'm certainly not questioning your information, I just don't understand who would be higher on our board at this point. After next year, we are going to be hurting at DT with the loss of Wright, Blackson, and Whitaker, so I would think that it's extremely important to get some big time DT's to be ready to step in for 2015.

It's my understanding that Elisha Shaw and Juco DT Dalvon Stuckey, who is committed to Miami, are at the top for the remaining DT spots. Per WDEWDE, Coach Garner is all over Stuckey. He feels he is a lot bigger and better than Bradley. He feels he is a great pass rusher. I will create a profile on him when I can but here are his juco highlights

[ellitor 33,114]

Here is the source on Frazier not being at the top of the DT board FWIW Link

[WarDamnEagleWDE 12,737]

Here is the source on Frazier not being at the top of the DT board FWIW Link

Not a huge fan of 247 but Keith Niebuhr is one of the best in the recruiting business.

[ellitor 33,114]

Here is the source on Frazier not being at the top of the DT board FWIW Link

Not a huge fan of 247 but Keith Niebuhr is one of the best in the recruiting business.

Yup!

[logan adams 333]

E, can you please elaborate on this? I trust the coaches and I'm certainly not questioning your information, I just don't understand who would be higher on our board at this point. After next year, we are going to be hurting at DT with the loss of Wright, Blackson, and Whitaker, so I would think that it's extremely important to get some big time DT's to be ready to step in for 2015.

It's my understanding that Elisha Shaw and Juco DT Dalvon Stuckey, who is committed to Miami, are at the top for the remaining DT spots. Per WDEWDE, Coach Garner is all over Stuckey. He feels he is a lot bigger and better than Bradley. He feels he is a great pass rusher. I will create a profile on him when I can but here are his juco highlights

It says he is Signed LOI at Florida State on Rivals.

[metafour 4,969]

It says he is Signed LOI at Florida State on Rivals.

He signed with FSU out of HS, didn't qualify, is now in JUCO and committed to Miami.

[Dixie1860 27]

I will not be surprised at all to see us with Shaw and Stuckey. Then we wait on the 2015 kids. Thompson and Payne are both in the M. Adams category potentially IMO. Big, freakishly strong and athletic DT's. There are 2-3 others in 2015 as well. But those two may be ready to go like Adams which is extremely rare. We are seeing more and more of it though.

[IronMan70 3,277]

I will not be surprised at all to see us with Shaw and Stuckey. Then we wait on the 2015 kids. Thompson and Payne are both in the M. Adams category potentially IMO. Big, freakishly strong and athletic DT's. There are 2-3 others in 2015 as well. But those two may be ready to go like Adams which is extremely rare. We are seeing more and more of it though.

We need us some more Adams and Lawsons.

[Tivo48 31]

Not to get off topic here, but I've seen Elijah Daniel moved to DT a lot on passing downs. Any word on if we're planning on eventually moving him there permanently or is that just CRG trying to get a better pass rush for obvious passing situations?

[ellitor 33,114]

Not to get off topic here, but I've seen Elijah Daniel moved to DT a lot on passing downs. Any word on if we're planning on eventually moving him there permanently or is that just CRG trying to get a better pass rush for obvious passing situations?

The trnding thought is he moves to full time DT by next year.

[McLoofus 35,182]

Not to get off topic here, but I've seen Elijah Daniel moved to DT a lot on passing downs. Any word on if we're planning on eventually moving him there permanently or is that just CRG trying to get a better pass rush for obvious passing situations?

The trnding thought is he moves to full time DT by next year.

I wonder if they're looking at Nosa and thinking, "Dang, if he'd been there all along..."

[War to the Eagle 364]

Not to get off topic here, but I've seen Elijah Daniel moved to DT a lot on passing downs. Any word on if we're planning on eventually moving him there permanently or is that just CRG trying to get a better pass rush for obvious passing situations?

The trnding thought is he moves to full time DT by next year.

I wonder if they're looking at Nosa and thinking, "Dang, if he'd been there all along..."

Man, we're going to be stretched pretty thin at DE next year if that's the case. By my count the only DEs who've played with any legitimate PT (i.e. first/second string) are Owens and Lawson.

[Rednilla 5,397]

Not to get off topic here, but I've seen Elijah Daniel moved to DT a lot on passing downs. Any word on if we're planning on eventually moving him there permanently or is that just CRG trying to get a better pass rush for obvious passing situations?

The trnding thought is he moves to full time DT by next year.

I wonder if they're looking at Nosa and thinking, "Dang, if he'd been there all along..."

Man, we're going to be stretched pretty thin at DE next year if that's the case. By my count the only DEs who've played with any legitimate PT (i.e. first/second string) are Owens and Lawson.

I've seen Keymiya Harrell and Justin Delaine's names called a few times.

[War to the Eagle 364]

Not to get off topic here, but I've seen Elijah Daniel moved to DT a lot on passing downs. Any word on if we're planning on eventually moving him there permanently or is that just CRG trying to get a better pass rush for obvious passing situations?

The trnding thought is he moves to full time DT by next year.

I wonder if they're looking at Nosa and thinking, "Dang, if he'd been there all along..."

Man, we're going to be stretched pretty thin at DE next year if that's the case. By my count the only DEs who've played with any legitimate PT (i.e. first/second string) are Owens and Lawson.

I've seen Keymiya Harrell and Justin Delaine's names called a few times.

My point exactly…guys with any legitimate playing time. That's to say nothing of the fact that Harrell and Delaine have been here for a few years already. If they were up to serious snuff in terms of talent and potential, they would be starting. No offense to K.H. J.D., G.P. or anyone else, but L.O., E.D. and C.L. (initial much???) will be the only guys with regular p.t. @ DE come next year.

Btw, if you can decipher the last sentence, you don't need a blogosphere dictionary.

[mcgufcm 4,107]

That's a position where Freshmen can help in a big way with limited role. If Thornton or Kennion (or both) are solid pass rushers, we can use them as specialists with great effect (we did the same with Lawson early, Lemonier, Groves, Coleman, and McClover off the top of my head).

I'm guessing here, but I have a suspicion we'll see a good deal of Daniel at both DE and DT next year. Swing players aren't that uncommon on the DL. He can be a SDE and a pass rushing DT, and it's not like we need him as a starting DT next year (see: Wright, Bradley, Adams, Blackson, and Whitaker all returning).

[triangletiger 1,599]

Not to get off topic here, but I've seen Elijah Daniel moved to DT a lot on passing downs. Any word on if we're planning on eventually moving him there permanently or is that just CRG trying to get a better pass rush for obvious passing situations?

The trnding thought is he moves to full time DT by next year.

I wonder if they're looking at Nosa and thinking, "Dang, if he'd been there all along..."

Man, we're going to be stretched pretty thin at DE next year if that's the case. By my count the only DEs who've played with any legitimate PT (i.e. first/second string) are Owens and Lawson.

I've seen Keymiya Harrell and Justin Delaine's names called a few times.

My point exactly…guys with any legitimate playing time. That's to say nothing of the fact that Harrell and Delaine have been here for a few years already. If they were up to serious snuff in terms of talent and potential, they would be starting. No offense to K.H. J.D., G.P. or anyone else, but L.O., E.D. and C.L. (initial much???) will be the only guys with regular p.t. @ DE come next year.

Btw, if you can decipher the last sentence, you don't need a blogosphere dictionary.

I don't think we should write off any of our underclassmen yet. History has many examples of unknown players having breakout seasons. While they may not be there yet, another year of S&C and exposure/familiarity with the defense could be just what is needed to excel.

[Rednilla 5,397]

Not to get off topic here, but I've seen Elijah Daniel moved to DT a lot on passing downs. Any word on if we're planning on eventually moving him there permanently or is that just CRG trying to get a better pass rush for obvious passing situations?

The trnding thought is he moves to full time DT by next year.

I wonder if they're looking at Nosa and thinking, "Dang, if he'd been there all along..."

Man, we're going to be stretched pretty thin at DE next year if that's the case. By my count the only DEs who've played with any legitimate PT (i.e. first/second string) are Owens and Lawson.

I've seen Keymiya Harrell and Justin Delaine's names called a few times.

My point exactly…guys with any legitimate playing time. That's to say nothing of the fact that Harrell and Delaine have been here for a few years already. If they were up to serious snuff in terms of talent and potential, they would be starting. No offense to K.H. J.D., G.P. or anyone else, but L.O., E.D. and C.L. (initial much???) will be the only guys with regular p.t. @ DE come next year.

Btw, if you can decipher the last sentence, you don't need a blogosphere dictionary.

Harrell is a sophomore. Delaine is a junior. Therezie is only breaking onto the scene this season; remember what he did last year? Me neither. Anthony Swain is a sophomore who has had to fill in due to injuries, and he's done alright. Neither Ryan Smith nor Ryan White were particularly heard from until this, their senior season, but each of them intercepted the reigning Heisman winner on Saturday.

My point is that they didn't get a scholarship at Auburn for being no good. Maybe they will never be starters, but if they're already getting a few reps this year, what makes you think they won't be ready to at least fill in as solid backups next year?

[NoALtiger 3,873]

Not to get off topic here, but I've seen Elijah Daniel moved to DT a lot on passing downs. Any word on if we're planning on eventually moving him there permanently or is that just CRG trying to get a better pass rush for obvious passing situations?

The trnding thought is he moves to full time DT by next year.

I wonder if they're looking at Nosa and thinking, "Dang, if he'd been there all along..."

Man, we're going to be stretched pretty thin at DE next year if that's the case. By my count the only DEs who've played with any legitimate PT (i.e. first/second string) are Owens and Lawson.

I've seen Keymiya Harrell and Justin Delaine's names called a few times.

My point exactly…guys with any legitimate playing time. That's to say nothing of the fact that Harrell and Delaine have been here for a few years already. If they were up to serious snuff in terms of talent and potential, they would be starting. No offense to K.H. J.D., G.P. or anyone else, but L.O., E.D. and C.L. (initial much???) will be the only guys with regular p.t. @ DE come next year.

Btw, if you can decipher the last sentence, you don't need a blogosphere dictionary.

Harrell is a sophomore. Delaine is a junior. Therezie is only breaking onto the scene this season; remember what he did last year? Me neither. Anthony Swain is a sophomore who has had to fill in due to injuries, and he's done alright. Neither Ryan Smith nor Ryan White were particularly heard from until this, their senior season, but each of them intercepted the reigning Heisman winner on Saturday.

My point is that they didn't get a scholarship at Auburn for being no good. Maybe they will never be starters, but if they're already getting a few reps this year, what makes you think they won't be ready to at least fill in as solid backups next year?

^^This^^. There is no better example that proves that logic flawed than Ryan Smith and Ryan White. They have, more often than not, been non factors their entire time at AU. Well, they are a major factor now. Saying they should have been starting if they had potential and talent is flawed as well. That is more an indication of the previous staffs view than the actual apparent value of each player. That staff didn't maximize or coach talent/potential as it should and was one of the biggest reasons they were all shown the door. JMO. Based on coaching change alone, I wouldn't write off a single player in this squad as of yet.

[TheBlueVue 177]

Based on coaching change alone, I wouldn't write off a single player in this squad as of yet.

Great point and i agree with your entire post but especially the last sentence

[C'viewTiger 242]

Is there a Josh Frazier here?? Paging Josh Frazier, that's Josh Frazier.