Insiders Hearing Anything? (Threads Merged)

[chizhead 618]

9 hours ago, Brad_ATX said:

Or it's because our coach doesn't do a good job at player development.

Oh noooooo! That just can't have anything to do with it and never figuring out how to use talented players just wouldn't enter in either...oh noooooooooo

[I_M4_AU 8,001]

10 hours ago, SumterAubie said:

A damn funny one too!

To be completely honest, it should have read the French Army as the Resistance was brave enough to resist.

[auburn4ever 1,266]

Others programs are killing us by telling recruits that Auburn won't make a coaching change and if you sign with Auburn, you'll be playing for a head coach who loses at least 4 games every year.  It's already happend during the last 7 years in a row.

[aucom96 1,630]

9 minutes ago, auburn4ever said:

Others programs are killing us by telling recruits that Auburn won't make a coaching change and if you sign with Auburn, you'll be playing for a head coach who loses at least 4 games every year.  It's already happend during the last 7 years in a row.

Or that they’re playing in an offense that no NFL team will ever run anything remotely like, an offense that has largely remained the same through three OCs in 7 seasons. This is why we get 4 star undersized skill players and the dregs of line talent.

[SocialCircle 570]

9 hours ago, AUBourne said:

Do you really think getting blown out against Georgia, losing to a terrible South Carolina, looking equal to Arkansas and Ole Miss, embarrassed by Alabama and handily losing at home to Texas A&M did not impact recruiting?  And BTW Gus was responsible for all that. Which means he is responsible for the apathy,  anger,  and discontent. When the results are 2nd tier the recruiting was always destined to follow the same trend as soon as the glamor wore off. The recruits and the parents are seeing the same results the fans are. They see the offensive line depth chart and lack of opportunity it presents. To think otherwise is to question their intelligence

 

We looked similar in 2018 and still had a highly rated class. LSU looks much worse than us and still has a solid class. The primary reason our recruiting is significantly down is because our administration has our head coach in limbo. In 2018 our AD came out with a statement and it helped recruiting. Dead silence this year. 

[SocialCircle 570]

10 hours ago, cole256 said:

If it doesn't make sense what players come to mind that jump out at you that really was coached up?

P. Barber

D. Thomas 

J. Dean

Kerryon J.

Chandler Cox

M. Davidson

J. Driscoll 

Rudy Ford 

Roger McCreary

D. Slayton

Dee Ford

D. Russell

Prince Tega W. 

Nick Marshall

CAP

Carl Lawson

Marcus Davis

Braden Smith

Deshaun Davis

D. Lawrence

Eli Stove

T. Manning

KJ Britt

Z. McClain

Whitlow

A. Jackson

Shenker

S. Williams 

Caleb Johnson

K Jones

Wooden

Pritchett

Deal

Noah I. 

 

[Swamp Eagle 5,144]

11 hours ago, Brad_ATX said:

Or it's because our coach doesn't do a good job at player development.

Then we need an image or gif of him working at 'Player Development'...play along, bruh! 

[SocialCircle 570]

9 hours ago, Brad_ATX said:

If you look at the start ratings only, you're not focusing at the entire roster.  We've recruited the o line like complete **** for three years.

But why highly rated offensive players would come to Auburn right now, I honestly have no idea.  Malzahn's offense has produced exactly three Top 2 round draft picks in his entire tenure (B. Smith, G. Robinson, and K. Johnson).  If I'm a recruit with potential NFL talent and see that, there's no chance I'm coming to Auburn.

Just so you're aware, that number is fewer than Mizzou.

Again the point is our recruiting overall is significantly worse than any previous year of his tenure. The reason is clear. Our administration has our head coach in limbo. We have many players in the NFL BTW. 

[KnightTiger 205]

https://strangeandgreatstateofalabama755539042.wordpress.com/2020/12/09/the-elephant-in-the-room-for-auburn-football-is-not-gus-malzahn-it-is-hugh-freeze/

[woodford 3,667]

Napier is growing on me after reading a little more about him. Part of the Saban and Dabo coaching tree and was a wonderful recruiter for Alabama. If MC signs an extension with Oregon, we should move on Napier. Cheap hire and if it doesn't work out in 3 years, move on to the next guy until we found OUR guy.

[cole256 17,084]

32 minutes ago, SocialCircle said:

P. Barber

D. Thomas 

J. Dean

Kerryon J.

Chandler Cox

M. Davidson

J. Driscoll 

Rudy Ford 

Roger McCreary

D. Slayton

Dee Ford

D. Russell

Prince Tega W. 

Nick Marshall

CAP

Carl Lawson

Marcus Davis

Braden Smith

Deshaun Davis

D. Lawrence

Eli Stove

T. Manning

KJ Britt

Z. McClain

Whitlow

A. Jackson

Shenker

S. Williams 

Caleb Johnson

K Jones

Wooden

Pritchett

Deal

Noah I. 

 

Oh you actually meant any player that was good that played at Auburn. That's different....the fact that you put Nick Marshall on that list with many others means you don't know what you are really saying. Got it

[McLoofus 35,182]

7 minutes ago, cole256 said:

Oh you actually meant any player that was good that played at Auburn. That's different....the fact that you put Nick Marshall on that list with many others means you don't know what you are really saying. Got it

The way you know if that guy doesn't know what he's talking about is if he talks. Dead giveaway every time. 

[The Freak 2,528]

24 minutes ago, KnightTiger said:

https://strangeandgreatstateofalabama755539042.wordpress.com/2020/12/09/the-elephant-in-the-room-for-auburn-football-is-not-gus-malzahn-it-is-hugh-freeze/

Woah, look at Gus alpha doggin Freeze in that pic.  That's like a unicorn photo.

[keesler 5,928]

12 hours ago, SocialCircle said:

Makes no sense whatsoever. Then why did we have highly rated classes the previous several seasons? 

Are they really highly rated classes when Auburn & this coaching staff have a retention problem? 

Seriously, the top 4 (FOUR) recruits from the 2018 class are no longer on the roster.  They may have been highly rated on paper when recruits signed on the dotted line.  If this staff can't keep those star players then the rankings mean very little because it doesn't translate to solid production on the field. 

[cole256 17,084]

7 minutes ago, keesler said:

Are they really highly rated classes when Auburn & this coaching staff have a retention problem? 

Seriously, the top 4 (FOUR) recruits from the 2018 class are no longer on the roster.  They may have been highly rated on paper when recruits signed on the dotted line.  If this staff can't keep those star players then the rankings mean very little because it doesn't translate to solid production on the field. 

Not to mention how he's ruining relationships every time these guys leave

[DAG 34,017]

High rated classes don’t mean a damn thing if you are not producing equal results 

[AuCivilEng1 11,026]

40 minutes ago, The Freak said:

Woah, look at Gus alpha doggin Freeze in that pic.  That's like a unicorn photo.

*Talk s*** about my bright orange sweater vest again”!

[cole256 17,084]

5 minutes ago, DAG said:

High rated classes don’t mean a damn thing if you are not producing equal results 

Hell if the guys don't even stay at your school to play

[DAG 34,017]

And recruiting being bad because of limbo is BS. If that was the case why is Michigan, Texas and Tennessee still recruiting at high levels? Heck the AD flat out said they aren't talking to their HC about renewing his contract until AFTER the season and they are in the top ten.

[keesler 5,928]

14 minutes ago, DAG said:

And recruiting being bad because of limbo is BS. If that was the case why is Michigan, Texas and Tennessee still recruiting at high levels? Heck the AD flat out said they aren't talking to their HC about renewing his contract until AFTER the season and they are in the top ten.

boom

[atl-tiger 655]

I don't see how the Ad coming out and saying "the coach that continues to put up mediocre results, 4 loss seasons, can't develop players, bad at personnel management, and runs an offense that will hurt your NFL dreams." will boost recruiting. 

[keesler 5,928]

1 hour ago, SocialCircle said:

Again the point is our recruiting overall is significantly worse than any previous year of his tenure. The reason is clear. Our administration has our head coach in limbo. We have many players in the NFL BTW. 

IF the Administration is keeping Gus in limbo then GOOD.

He has kept this program and the entire fan base in limbo for damn near a decade.  He makes promises to "fix this thing", "turn this thing around", "get our edge back" all while he's flipped flopped back and forth between being a "CEO type Coach and turning the offense over to the OC", to wanting to "be an offensive Coach again and taking 100% of the offense back", to "giving the offense back the OC".   

He is a man that has pulled millions and kept this program in limbo every dang season with his "gonna be a special year" and "the future is bright" bullS#!t.

So if the Administration has finally decided to turn the tables on him and keep him in limbo, then so be it.  I hope they stick to their guns and won't allow him to use the recruiting down slide as leverage to EXTORT ANOTHER EXTENSION out of them.  Honestly, Greene should be well versed in Gus' shenanigan's by now. I'd think Gus' promises and pledges fall on deaf ears where Greene is concerned. 

[SocialCircle 570]

1 hour ago, cole256 said:

Oh you actually meant any player that was good that played at Auburn. That's different....the fact that you put Nick Marshall on that list with many others means you don't know what you are really saying. Got it

Nick Marshall is one of the best examples of a player developed by Auburn.  He became a much better passer his second year here.  He also was much better as the 2013 season progressed.  We took a guy UGA moved to the secondary and put him in a position that allowed him to take us to the national title game.  

[SocialCircle 570]

12 minutes ago, keesler said:

IF the Administration is keeping Gus in limbo then GOOD.

He has kept this program and the entire fan base in limbo for damn near a decade.  He makes promises to "fix this thing", "turn this thing around", "get our edge back" all while he's flipped flopped back and forth between being a "CEO type Coach and turning the offense over to the OC", to wanting to "be an offensive Coach again and taking 100% of the offense back", to "giving the offense back the OC".   

He is a man that has pulled millions and kept this program in limbo every dang season with his "gonna be a special year" and "the future is bright" bullS#!t.

So if the Administration has finally decided to turn the tables on him and keep him in limbo, then so be it.  I hope they stick to their guns and won't allow him to use the recruiting down slide as leverage to EXTORT ANOTHER EXTENSION out of them.  Honestly, Greene should be well versed in Gus' shenanigan's by now. I'd think Gus' promises and pledges fall on deaf ears where Greene is concerned. 

Being in limbo is good only if you want to make it harder for us to win going forward.  If our administration believes Gus isn't the right coach going forward, then they should say so and buy him out and get on with hiring the next coach. 

[SocialCircle 570]

25 minutes ago, keesler said:

boom

Thanks for proving my point with Texas.  This is by far their worst recruiting year in the last 5 seasons.  They have been rated 3rd and 3rd and 7th and 8th up until this season.