Insiders Hearing Anything? (Threads Merged)

[AURealist 2,185]

19 minutes ago, PigskinPat said:

Ok, someone help me understand this because here’s the thing I don’t get. We keep talking about how the administration will probably wait until next year because the buyout drops from about $21 million this year to about $16 million next year and it will save the school about $5 million. But.... we still have to pay Gus his salary next season ($7 million) plus the buyout which would total $23 million, so we would actually owe Gus MORE money by waiting until next year. We would save about $2 million overall by pulling the trigger this year instead of waiting until next year, so why is this being used as the excuse? I know there’s covid, lost revenue this year, etc, but it’s not like he’s swinging by the athletic department on his way out to pick up a $21 million check if he’s let go after this season. Does anyone else see it the way I do?

The contract was designed this way to make parting ways as painful as possible - and so, less likely. 

If only the AU PTB had taken and passed arithmetic before they signed that noose of a contract extension...  

[Sani-Freeze 552]

3 hours ago, SocialCircle said:

We looked similar in 2018 and still had a highly rated class. LSU looks much worse than us and still has a solid class. The primary reason our recruiting is significantly down is because our administration has our head coach in limbo. In 2018 our AD came out with a statement and it helped recruiting. Dead silence this year. 

Nah. The recruits (commits and prospects who were on the verge of committing) started jumping ship right after the UGA debacle at the beginning of this season. It's on Gus and the dysfunctional offense he has cultivated and created over eight years. 

[cole256 17,084]

2 hours ago, McLoofus said:

The way you know if that guy doesn't know what he's talking about is if he talks. Dead giveaway every time. 

Bro you spoke the truth with this one

[Bathel 50]

25 minutes ago, PigskinPat said:

Ok, someone help me understand this because here’s the thing I don’t get. We keep talking about how the administration will probably wait until next year because the buyout drops from about $21 million this year to about $16 million next year and it will save the school about $5 million. But.... we still have to pay Gus his salary next season ($7 million) plus the buyout which would total $23 million, so we would actually owe Gus MORE money by waiting until next year. We would save about $2 million overall by pulling the trigger this year instead of waiting until next year, so why is this being used as the excuse? I know there’s covid, lost revenue this year, etc, but it’s not like he’s swinging by the athletic department on his way out to pick up a $21 million check if he’s let go after this season. Does anyone else see it the way I do?

We have to pay a coach either way. Salary next year shouldn’t be part of the calculus. 

[Swamp Eagle 5,144]

28 minutes ago, PigskinPat said:

Ok, someone help me understand this because here’s the thing I don’t get. We keep talking about how the administration will probably wait until next year because the buyout drops from about $21 million this year to about $16 million next year and it will save the school about $5 million. But.... we still have to pay Gus his salary next season ($7 million) plus the buyout which would total $23 million, so we would actually owe Gus MORE money by waiting until next year. We would save about $2 million overall by pulling the trigger this year instead of waiting until next year, so why is this being used as the excuse? I know there’s covid, lost revenue this year, etc, but it’s not like he’s swinging by the athletic department on his way out to pick up a $21 million check if he’s let go after this season. Does anyone else see it the way I do?

His buyout doesn't decrease to 16.2 mil until after 31 Dec 2021. If he's fired anytime between now and then, it will be 75% of his remaining contract plus his years salary, whatever that math figures to be.

[JBiGGiE 2,488]

5 minutes ago, Tiger said:

What are the chances Oregon is talking extension to Cristobal immediately after 2 ugly losses because they're feeling AU is gonna come calling?

It might be indicative of not just Auburn sniffing around, but Texas and Michigan... But I had mentioned earlier Cristobal and Oregon had been in contract extension negotiations way back in the Spring before all the cancellations and spending freezes happened. Honestly if we want Cristobal, we have to hope Texas convinces Urban Meyer to re-unretire. We won't win that bidding war...

[cole256 17,084]

56 minutes ago, SocialCircle said:

Nick Marshall is one of the best examples of a player developed by Auburn.  He became a much better passer his second year here.  He also was much better as the 2013 season progressed.  We took a guy UGA moved to the secondary and put him in a position that allowed him to take us to the national title game.  

We took a guy who was dynamic and carried us and then when he wanted to get better and prep for the NFL, our genius coach denied him the opportunity as if he knows ANYTHING about preparing a QB for the NFL so he had to play corner.....that's how we treated one of the greatest QB's and hero 's to EVER play for our school

[bigbird 60,577]

5 minutes ago, Bathel said:

We have to pay a coach either way. Salary next year shouldn’t be part of the calculus. 

Except we won't be paying 7 to the new hire. Depending on the coach, we can save a good bit in salaries.

[cole256 17,084]

And also I don't have to speculate as far as our 4 star QB goes.....he absolutely didn't decommit because of a coach being in limbo. So that can't be argued

[SocialCircle 570]

36 minutes ago, bigbird said:

For the top tier prospects, the more important variables are, will they be put in a position to showcase their talents and will they be developed enough to make it to the league.

And AU is in the top 10 for getting players into the league as of right now. Thanks again for proving my point.

[SocialCircle 570]

8 minutes ago, cole256 said:

We took a guy who was dynamic and carried us and then when he wanted to get better and prep for the NFL, our genius coach denied him the opportunity as if he knows ANYTHING about preparing a QB for the NFL so he had to play corner.....that's how we treated one of the greatest QB's and hero 's to EVER play for our school

Gus didn’t deny Nick Marshall anything. He helped him become a better QB. 

[bigbird 60,577]

3 minutes ago, SocialCircle said:

And AU is in the top 10 for getting players into the league as of right now. Thanks again for proving my point.

Wrong. They are 10th in players in the league. Not everyone playing on Sunday played under Gus.

[McLoofus 35,182]

12 minutes ago, cole256 said:

Bro you spoke the truth with this one

How hilarious is the Nick Marshall stuff? 

[Hay Field 101 632]

Well hell I tried to make it to at least noon today but its just not in the cards. That's right i am low on beer again today i am headed out now to grab two more 18 packs for today. I got wings for me and a buddy yesterday I think i will get some stone crab claws today. Can I get anything again today for anyone? I don't mind stopping. If this keeps up I will be in rehab before New Years. You cant say I don't Love Auburn.

[cole256 17,084]

4 minutes ago, SocialCircle said:

Gus didn’t deny Nick Marshall anything. He helped him become a better QB. 

You shouldn't speak on things you don't know. He absolutely told him not to train with the NFL guy

[bigbird 60,577]

Blackson, Angelo 

 Davidson, Marlon 

 Harris, Josh 

 Harrell, Marquel 

 Williams, Duke 

 Brown, Derrick 

 Horton, Mike 

 Bynes, Josh 

 Lawson, Carl 

 Uzomah, CJ 

 Parkey, Cody 

 Johnson, Kerryon 

 Siposs, Arryn 

 Adams, Montravius 

 Smith, Braden

 Russell, Dontavius 

 Thomas, Daniel 

 Wright, Gabe 

 Carlson, Daniel 

 Coe, Nick DE 

 Cox, Chandler 

 Davis, Javaris 

 Igbinoghene, Noah 

 Jones, Jonathan 

 King, Brandon 

 Newton, Cam 

 Stidham, Jarrett 

 Slade, Chad 

 Slayton, Darius 

 Driscoll, Jack 

 Ford, Rudy 

 Wanogho, Prince Tega 

 Thorpe, Neiko 

 Coleman, Shon 

 Ford, Dee 

 Davis, Carlton 

 Dean, Jamel 

 Bates, Daren 

 Barber, Peyton 

 Lawrence, Devaroe

That's 40 players. How many of those were at AU when Gus was the HC?

 

https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/active-nfl-players-by-college/auburn/90061

 

[cole256 17,084]

5 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Wrong. They are 10th in players in the league. Not everyone playing on Sunday played under Gus.

And LMAO at getting....there are a few guys who played in the NFL and had minimal time here.....that's how well we identify talent. Then what if you take the transfers that were actually developed by other coaches out?

[jAUSon 2,836]

51 minutes ago, SocialCircle said:

Nothing has changed except our administration refuses to make a statement, so recruiting is way off from all other seasons Gus has been here. 

His contract isn't even close to expiring. Statement-wise they owe us nothing. A non-statement is so far down the list of reasons this recruiting class is bust, it aint worth discussing. 

[cole256 17,084]

Just now, bigbird said:

Blackson, Angelo 

 Davidson, Marlon 

 Harris, Josh 

 Harrell, Marquel 

 Williams, Duke 

 Brown, Derrick 

 Horton, Mike 

 Bynes, Josh 

 Lawson, Carl 

 Uzomah, CJ 

 Parkey, Cody 

 Johnson, Kerryon 

 Siposs, Arryn 

 Adams, Montravius 

 Smith, Braden

 Russell, Dontavius 

 Thomas, Daniel 

 Wright, Gabe 

 Carlson, Daniel 

 Coe, Nick DE 

 Cox, Chandler 

 Davis, Javaris 

 Igbinoghene, Noah 

 Jones, Jonathan 

 King, Brandon 

 Newton, Cam 

 Stidham, Jarrett 

 Slade, Chad 

 Slayton, Darius 

 Driscoll, Jack 

 Ford, Rudy 

 Wanogho, Prince Tega 

 Thorpe, Neiko 

 Coleman, Shon 

 Ford, Dee 

 Davis, Carlton 

 Dean, Jamel 

 Bates, Daren 

 Barber, Peyton 

 Lawrence, Devaroe

That's 40 players. How many of those were at AU when Gus was the HC?

 

https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/active-nfl-players-by-college/auburn/90061

 

This is why IDC I will not hate muschamp. He came in and got is more talent in a summer than a bunch of our coaches have in a career

[AUApostle 7,651]

9 minutes ago, Hay Field 101 said:

Well hell I tried to make it to at least noon today but its just not in the cards. That's right i am low on beer again today i am headed out now to grab two more 18 packs for today. I got wings for me and a buddy yesterday I think i will get some stone crab claws today. Can I get anything again today for anyone? I don't mind stopping. If this keeps up I will be in rehab before New Years. You cant say I don't Love Auburn.

do you deliver, or ship?

[bigbird 60,577]

1 minute ago, cole256 said:

And LMAO at getting....there are a few guys who played in the NFL and had minimal time here.....that's how well we identify talent. Then what if you take the transfers that were actually developed by other coaches out?

What!?! No way you know what your talking about! Brandon King definitely made it to the league based off his time at AU. 😂

[aubaseball 2,642]

The argument for how Gus handles  QB’s, you should take a look at Stidham.   He is truly the only QB that Gus has had that was an NFL quarterback prospect.   Stidham got worse his second year at Auburn.   

All the other QB’s were college QB’s only.  Nick Marshal was an   College QB when he got to Auburn and became slightly better than average his second season.

White was same player when he left as he was when he got to Auburn.   

 

[AUBwins 10,076]

Kinda putting the comments together from various people here. I am thinking Gus was told this week he would be let go next week, but they haven't made it public, probably with NSD in mind and for purposes of the next coach still coaching maybe (if MC). Question is if the players were told or not.  JMO.

[Tiger 8,830]

25 minutes ago, SocialCircle said:

Gus didn’t deny Nick Marshall anything. He helped him become a better QB. 

He literally didn't let him get outside coaching. 

Its ok to claim ignorance on something

[DAG 34,002]

12 minutes ago, AUBwins said:

Kinda putting the comments together from various people here. I am thinking Gus was told this week he would be let go next week, but they haven't made it public, probably with NSD in mind and for purposes of the next coach still coaching maybe (if MC). Question is if the players were told or not.  JMO.

This would’ve gotten out by now if that was the case. Somebody definitely would’ve talked