Harsin declines to address vaccination status

[aubiefifty 16,860]

good lord some of you people would argue with a stop sign.

[AUGunsmith 666]

14 minutes ago, W.E.D said:

What about every student?

Vaccine mandates are not new.  They have never forced people to give up their morals or ideology.  There has never been this weird bat s*** view on vaccines, viruses, and medicine.

All vaccine mandates are stupid and should be done away with. The zeal of the States response to covid just brings it to the forefront. 

 

The major difference here is that not only are you being barred from attending public school but also barred from employment. , Not to mention you're being barred from participation in private activities on private property through state threats of violence. 

[Gowebb11 9,353]

History is about to repeat itself. A few weeks ago, a lot of AU fans were freaking out over the firing of Corn Williams and talking about the bad perception it might leave with recruits. We beat LSU and Arky and now those same fans don’t care about it at all (or even remember it happened). Now some fans are freaking out because Harsin won’t divulge his vax status and afraid of the negative perception it could have on recruiting. Let him beat Ole Miss and TAMU the next 2 weeks and those same fans wont give a dang about this issue. Too many people mad about too many things. 

Beat Ole Miss!

Edited October 26, 2021 by Gowebb11

[jAUSon 2,836]

13 hours ago, AU9377 said:

 

Do you not find it strange that the governor has been on a year long crusade begging people to get vaccinated, yet wants to give the same an out if they want one?

I find it perfect. And I'm no Ivey fan. She wants everyone to be vaccinated, but doesn't want to force anyone to be vaccinated, which is perfect. Anti-vaxxers need to jump off a bridge. Knife-point vaxxers need to jump off the same bridge.  

[boisnumber1 2,821]

1 hour ago, Tigerpro2a said:

IT's only a story because of us. The team is not focusing on this one bit. Who gives a big flying f word what that midget in Tuscaloosa has done. It's only a story because the Pro-vaxxers can't stand the fact that he isn't bending the knee to their will. Period. 

You say forget about his Rights? Wow. Some people never cease to amaze me. I hope you are never put in a position where your rights are violated. I have been there. IT isn't fun. I pray that never happens to you, although from the looks of it you would probably take it with a smile not having  clue that you just got shafted without the common courtesy of lube.

Exactly...forget about his rights 🤦 Amazing how monumentally stupid so many have become. Sorry if stupid is too harsh, but there's just no other word for it. This thread needs to be deleted.

Edited October 26, 2021 by boisnumber1

[augolf1716 21,253]

29 minutes ago, boisnumber1 said:

Exactly...forget about his rights 🤦 Amazing how monumentally stupid so many have become. Sorry if stupid is too harsh, but there's just no other word for it. This thread needs to be deleted.

Its getting close nothing from nothing leave nothing......by the way Billy gives one hell of a concert saw him at Auburn

 

[gr82b4au 5,568]

32 minutes ago, boisnumber1 said:

This thread needs to be deleted.

I agree, but you know when the bama-loving Auburn beat writer douche bags from al.com post the slander article against Auburn today, another thread will be created on this site by “Auburn” fans. It is inevitable. 

[Tigerpro2a 5,650]

I am also curious why there has been no federal mandate for those on welfare? Get Vaccinated or lose benefits? I have seen it for gov workers. I have seen it for healthcare workers. I have seen it for Teachers. I have seen it for truckers. Why are they only mandating those with jobs?

[KnightTiger 205]

Who was it in this thread  that said Harsin may take the Washington state job or another Job due to being forced to take the vaccine here at Auburn?

So you're saying he could leave one football program to avoid taking the vaccine and head to another program that just fired their hc for not taking the vaccine 

🙄

[aubiefifty 16,860]

19 minutes ago, augolf1716 said:

Its getting close nothing from nothing leave nothing......by the way Billy gives one hell of a concert saw him at Auburn

 

i saw him open for the stones in the mid seventies in dc and then he was their keyboard player when the stones hit the stage.

[Ryan Sanders 123]

17 hours ago, W.E.D said:

So constant drama for the next 6 weeks, possible religious exemption, rumors and speculation.....or just say "yes, I'm vaccinated"

 

Yeah I understand that. BUT, it is the MEDIA who causes the drama. We will find out in December... If he is still the coach at Auburn, then he got vaccinated. If not, then he isn't vaccinated. But writing article after article.. and tweet after tweet about it will do nothing for the situation. It just stirs the pot and keeps the drama at a high level. The beat writers love it and AL.COM reallllly loves it. 

It's an unfortunate situation. I understand why the media does it - cause they really don't know Xs and Os. They are very good at finding drama.. injury updates.. etc. And they are also good at cancelling someone's career given the opportunity. They are good at calling out racial issues with fans, universities, etc.. They love to call out that we don't have enough black coaches or a player is not playing in the NFL because he is black, etc.... Meanwhile... 95% of the people writing this stuff are WHITE. I don't see them tweeting that we don't have enough black sports writers.. But they love to call everybody else out. The media sucks. They find anything to report on that will get them out of having to actually have intelligent and knowledgeable write ups on the actual game of football. Xs and Os.

[aubiefifty 16,860]

13 minutes ago, gr82b4au said:

I agree, but you know when the bama-loving Auburn beat writer douche bags from al.com post the slander article against Auburn today, another thread will be created on this site by “Auburn” fans. It is inevitable. 

i am posting it in this thread so people can read exactly what was said. and i will catch hell for it but so many are invested in this thing everything should be covered.

[aubiefifty 16,860]

Lacking transparency, Bryan Harsin puts Auburn in limbo

By Joseph Goodman | jgoodman@al.com

7-8 minutes

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If Bryan Harsin is going to throw it all away because he refuses to get the vaccine then he wasn’t the guy for Auburn anyway.

There have been some great days for Auburn football recently, but Monday was not among them. The Tigers play the Ole Miss Rebels on Saturday at Jordan-Hare Stadium, and we’re fairly confident that Harsin will be on the sidelines instead of in the unemployment line. Come Dec. 8 … who knows?

With his university now requiring employees to be vaccinated or face termination, Harsin once again refused to show the world his vaccination card on Monday afternoon during a news conference. It’s baffling behavior for someone in Harsin’s position, but it shouldn’t be this complicated. Why isn’t Harsin being transparent about his vaccine status? He needs to be because that’s what this lofty perch of leadership entrusted to him by a public university demands. We know he tested positive for COVID-19 around Aug.19, so if he was treated with plasma or antibodies then he’ll be eligible for a vaccine in time to meet Auburn’s Dec. 8 mandate.

Or maybe he’ll be fired.

What a nightmare hire for Auburn this coach would be if Auburn’s boosters spent all that money buying out Gus Malzahn to blow it all on a guy who refuses vaccines. Harsin was asked straight up if he was vaccinated, and if not then when. He ducked the question. The red flags are flying, folks.

“I appreciate you have to ask the question and understand it, but it doesn’t change — I mean, the executive order, all those things, it doesn’t change the fact I’m not going to discuss any individual’s decision or status on the vaccine or anyone else’s, including my own, like I said before.

“From the beginning I think I’ve made it clear that wasn’t something I was going to talk about, or discuss. I wasn’t going to go down that road, and don’t feel like right now that is any different. I’m focused on Ole Miss.”

RELATED: What does Gov. Kay Ivey’s executive order do?

The only thing we really know for certain is that nothing Harsin has said about vaccines has made any sense and has the clarity of chilled squirrel-brain soup.

At the same time Harsin was mealy-mouthing his way through non-answers, coincidentally, Gov. Kay Ivey issued a statement further politicizing vaccines and selfishly endangering public health.

But also maybe throwing some cover to Auburn’s football coach.

From Gov. Ivey’s statement: “The federal government’s outrageous overreach has simply given us no other option, but to begin taking action, which is why I am issuing this executive order to fight these egregious COVID-19 vaccine mandates.

“Alabamians — and Americans alike — should and must have the choice to roll up their sleeves to get this shot and certainly not forced by government. While President Biden laughs at the idea of protecting your freedoms, I will continue fighting for Alabama businesses and their employees.”

If you take away anything of value from this column, then please let it be this. Understand that Alabama schools require proof of immunization for many diseases, and this latest plague of the earth, COVID-19, should be no different, but that’s not how politicians win votes these days. Let’s not forget that Gov. Ivey once wore blackface while at Auburn, but recently signed into law legislation banning “critical race theory.” It’s all so sad and pathetic, these games people play with the good people of this state.

Gov. Ivey promised that COVID-19 mandates were going to be challenged in court. Good luck with that. Something tells me no one wants measles or mumps making a comeback so Gov. Ivey can score political points.

As for Auburn changing course after Ivey’s announcement about an executive order, that’s likely not happening. The university relies on federal money to operate, and has a duty to the state of Alabama to actually serve the best interests of the people. As for state politicians, the standards of service are obviously not the same.

Thousands and thousands of people in the state of Alabama have died from COVID-19, and every person in the state, the country and the world has been affected by this disease and its ongoing pandemic. Every person needs to do their part. Charles Barkley said it best. The vaccine isn’t about the individual. It’s about protecting everyone around them. It’s about all of us.

At some point, amid all the toxic sludge that people in the state of Alabama are forced to ingest because of the cowards, crooks and conmen in charge, someone with Barkley’s backbone needs to stand up. Hopefully it will be Harsin, who could always come out in support of vaccines after confusing the message. At this point, it seems more likely that he’ll just be fired if he’s not vaccinated.

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These are not moments of strength for the proud Auburn Tigers, or the first-year coach who is trying to persuade recruits to play for his team instead of Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Clemson and all the rest. Harsin, who is from Boise, Idaho, has his selling points, and the two road wins against SEC West foes are positive steps. Unfortunately for Harsin and Auburn, though, transparency and truthfulness on vaccines are not among his strengths, and so that’s not a great sign here in the early going of his time among the Plainsmen.

There is already a precedent for a college coach being fired over vaccines. Washington State coach Nick Rolovich was dismissed last week after refusing to be vaccinated before that university’s deadline. Harsin doesn’t need to play this thing out any longer and turn Auburn into a national embarrassment.

Alabama coach Nick Saban has done PSAs encouraging vaccines. Auburn quarterback Bo Nix has done them, too. Auburn’s coach refused to promote vaccination, and now it looks like he’s willing to put the future of Auburn football in danger for his own pride or personal convictions.

Vaccinated or not, it’s unacceptable that he would rather evade questions than answer honestly in public when a simple explanation might save Auburn so much shame, and, more importantly, probably help save lives in Alabama, too.

Who really knows how long Harsin is even going to be at Auburn now that his employer is requiring all of its employees to have fully formed antibodies from the COVID-19 vaccine by Dec. 8? Definitely not the recruits.

Joseph Goodman is a columnist for the Alabama Media Group.

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Its nice to see our coach not bow to the Vaccine Nazi's 

Amazing how many people think their opinions matter when it comes to other peoples personal health choices.  

 

[Ryan Sanders 123]

And again... Joseph Goodman is ASSUMING that he is not vaccinated. And is writing an entire article on that assumption. They can not stand for a coach to be private in any way.. whether it is injury reports or anything else.. they think they deserve to know everything. They seem to forget that without Auburn football (or any school).. they're stuck writing about who knows what.. or maybe no job at all.

[SRBautigerfan 1,040]

4 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

i am posting it in this thread so people can read exactly what was said. and i will catch hell for it but so many are invested in this thing everything should be covered.

I personally prefer you to post al.com columns here so that I can read without giving them a click. 🤘 

[bigbird 60,578]

1 hour ago, autiger88 said:

There's a clear pattern 

[e808 3,028]

6 hours ago, imaolgatiger said:

It’s obvious that you don’t believe in freedom, Go show your papers to eat and don’t worry about CBH’s business, as it’s none of yours! This was the US, but it seems to be turning into communist China. You are willing to give up your freedom, but some of us aren’t.

Touchy aren’t we. U must don’t fly or do much. There are rules and laws all over the place so I don’t see how saying yea or nay for a shot is giving up freedom. It’s just like people claim freedom of speech. You have that right but it doesn’t shield you from repercussions. 

Edited October 26, 2021 by e808

[bigbird 60,578]

1 hour ago, alexava said:

I haven’t seen anyone in the thread mention “ religious OR PHILOSOPHICAL “ exemptions. That was a thang a few years ago. 

It's earlier in the thread.

[aubiefifty 16,860]

my thoughts are this. are the players being made to take the vaccine to play? if they are it is not fair to give harsin or anyone else a pass. and i am sorry but if harsin already took the vaccine and just said so this would not be an issue. man it seems it is always something with auburn. for the record i am pro vaccine but i have lost several friends to covid and most of them did not take the vaccine. my best friend,his wife, his two sons and their wives,a brother in law{ who died by the way} as a sister in law all got covid and none took the vaccine. my friend did great on the blood thing but he said it was close. and i get why folks are hesitant to take it. but if you go out driving and show your behind and kill someone you are responsible. my thoughts are unless you have a medical condition if you refuse the vaccine and pass it on and it kills someone you are responsibility. explain to me what the difference is? and lets be clear covid is passed around mostly by people.

[aubiefifty 16,860]

5 minutes ago, auskip07 said:

Its nice to see our coach not bow to the Vaccine Nazi's 

Amazing how many people think their opinions matter when it comes to other peoples personal health choices.  

 

if you do not take the vaccine and give it to someone and they die it becomes more than a choice or their opinion.

[KnightTiger 205]

Mike leach also refuses to address his vaccine status

[aubiefifty 16,860]

6 minutes ago, SRBautigerfan said:

I personally prefer you to post al.com columns here so that I can read without giving them a click. 🤘 

it is a dirty job indeed but someone has to do it. personally i am not as article sissy. they posted a really scathing article on bama yesterday and i almost posted it to show they do take shots at the turds as well.

[auskip07 930]

3 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

if you do not take the vaccine and give it to someone and they die it becomes more than a choice or their opinion.

If they die its probably from another underlying issue like obesity.   If they took the vaccine they should be fine right?    It works doesnt it? 

I dont need to be vaccinated for your vaccine to protect you. 

 

Edited October 26, 2021 by auskip07

[bigbird 60,578]

16 minutes ago, Ryan Sanders said:

We will find out in December... If he is still the coach at Auburn, then he got vaccinated. If not, then he isn't vaccinated.

Not necessarily and I'd bet my membership here that he will be here next season.