Governor Cuomo Announces to New York That He Doesn’t Trust Experts Anymore #Cuomocide *UPDATE - Cuomo RESIGNS*

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On 3/2/2021 at 4:51 PM, TitanTiger said:

The Northram situation really isn't comparable.  Regardless of how bad you think a yearbook photo from 36 years ago in blackface is or should be, no one would put that in the same league as falsifying nursing home deaths from COVID due to a decision a governor made, or now three claims of sexual harassment or unwanted sexual advances.  Whatever did or didn't happen to Northram is not a guide for what will or won't happen to Cuomo.

Did you listen to the interview of the third "accuser?"  CBS should be embarrassed for even airing that nonsense.  In a nutshell, Cuomo did nothing to the woman.  She spent the interview talking about what she thought he was probably thinking.

As for the nursing home saga..... the entire controversy is really over where the deaths were counted.  The numbers weren't fudged.  The thing boils down to counting a death at a hospital or as a nursing home resident.  I fail to see why it matters, other than for political dagger throwing.  Someone treated at a hospital and then released being admitted then to a nursing home should likewise not the the biggest of story lines.  Many of those patients were nursing home residents before being transferred to hospitals.  For those that weren't, according to CDC guidelines, they should not have been contagious at that point, regardless of whether or not they were still testing positive.

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3 hours ago, AU9377 said:

Did you listen to the interview of the third "accuser?"  CBS should be embarrassed for even airing that nonsense.  In a nutshell, Cuomo did nothing to the woman.  She spent the interview talking about what she thought he was probably thinking.

As for the nursing home saga..... the entire controversy is really over where the deaths were counted.  The numbers weren't fudged.  The thing boils down to counting a death at a hospital or as a nursing home resident.  I fail to see why it matters, other than for political dagger throwing.  Someone treated at a hospital and then released being admitted then to a nursing home should likewise not the the biggest of story lines.  Many of those patients were nursing home residents before being transferred to hospitals.  For those that weren't, according to CDC guidelines, they should not have been contagious at that point, regardless of whether or not they were still testing positive.

Thanks, Chris.

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A third female staffer comes forward with claims of inappropriate conduct.  Two others accuse him of sexual harassment and another woman who did not work for him has claimed unwanted advances.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/07/politics/andrew-cuomo-inappropriate-conduct-accusation/index.html

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At least I'm not Cuomo

-Les Miles

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19 hours ago, AU9377 said:

Did you listen to the interview of the third "accuser?"  CBS should be embarrassed for even airing that nonsense.  In a nutshell, Cuomo did nothing to the woman.  She spent the interview talking about what she thought he was probably thinking.

As for the nursing home saga..... the entire controversy is really over where the deaths were counted.  The numbers weren't fudged.  The thing boils down to counting a death at a hospital or as a nursing home resident.  I fail to see why it matters, other than for political dagger throwing.  Someone treated at a hospital and then released being admitted then to a nursing home should likewise not the the biggest of story lines.  Many of those patients were nursing home residents before being transferred to hospitals.  For those that weren't, according to CDC guidelines, they should not have been contagious at that point, regardless of whether or not they were still testing positive.

Blue MAGA...

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Cuomo is paying the price for his arrogance. Pride cometh before a downfall.

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For those keeping score, the accusers are now up to 5. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/03/07/two-more-former-aides-accuse-cuomo-of-inappropriate-conduct/?fbclid=IwAR2NOFApn5Dzgeei1azsESFSeBVkkFzAkpobR8I-Bw9pDOx5NnBo54JSKww&sh=3f4945d3340d

Governor Cuomo's Behavior called "hostile, toxic" FOR DECADES...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cuomo-toxic-workplace/2021/03/06/7f7c5b9c-7dd3-11eb-b3d1-9e5aa3d5220c_story.html

Liss said she initially thought of Cuomo’s behavior as “harmless flirtations,” but over time found it “patronizing” and said she felt diminished to “just a skirt,” adding that her experience in Albany led her to seek mental health counseling in 2014. 

Meanwhile, Karen Hinton, a former press aide of the governor, detailed to The Washington Post allegations that Cuomo acted inappropriately toward her after a work event in 2000, when he was leading the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development and she was a consultant for the agency (she had left her full-time position as a HUD communications official). 

Hinton alleged that Cuomo summoned her to his dimly lit hotel room and pulled her back toward him after she tried to pull away from him, holding her before she backed away and exited the room. 

Hinton—who was at the time 42, roughly the same age as Cuomo—described the embrace as “very long, too long, too tight, too intimate” and “not just a hug.” 

Cuomo’s office denied inappropriate conduct in both instances, with Peter Ajemian, the governor’s director of communications, telling Forbes Hinton’s account of the interaction at the hotel room “did not happen.” 

Cuomo’s office denied inappropriate conduct in both instances, with Peter Ajemian, the governor’s director of communications, telling Fobes Hinton’s account of the interaction at the hotel room “did not happen.” 

“Karen Hinton is a known antagonist of the governor’s who is attempting to take advantage of this moment to score cheap points with made up allegations from 21 years ago,” Ajemian said in an email (The Washington Post reported the pair were known to have a contentious working relationship). 

CRUCIAL QUOTE 

Responding to Liss’s allegations, Richard Azzopardi, Cuomo’s senior advisor, branded their interaction as normal. “Reporters and photographers have covered the governor for 14 years watching him kiss men and women and posing for pictures,” Azzopardi told Forbes. “At the public open house mansion reception there are hundreds of people and he poses for hundreds of pictures. That’s what people in politics do.” 

 

Edited March 7, 2021 by DKW 86

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Democratic NY State Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins:

"We need to govern without daily distraction.  For the good of the state, Governor Cuomo must resign."

https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/state-senates-andrea-stewart-cousins-calls-for-cuomo-to-resign/

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12 hours ago, TitanTiger said:

Democratic NY State Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins:

"We need to govern without daily distraction.  For the good of the state, Governor Cuomo must resign."

https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/state-senates-andrea-stewart-cousins-calls-for-cuomo-to-resign/

Wait, I was told by some geniuses here that Democrats wouldn't even try to hold him accountable.

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13 hours ago, TitanTiger said:

Democratic NY State Senate Majority Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins:

"We need to govern without daily distraction.  For the good of the state, Governor Cuomo must resign."

https://nypost.com/2021/03/07/state-senates-andrea-stewart-cousins-calls-for-cuomo-to-resign/

Cuomo has publicly said he will never resign. So your point would be what exactly? 

1 hour ago, Brad_ATX said:

Wait, I was told by some geniuses here that Democrats wouldn't even try to hold him accountable.

I guess you didnt read the article I posted. I will fort it for you to NOT READ again:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cuomo-toxic-workplace/2021/03/06/7f7c5b9c-7dd3-11eb-b3d1-9e5aa3d5220c_story.html

Cuomo’s behavior created ‘hostile, toxic’ workplace culture for decades, former aides say

The allegations have engulfed one of the country’s top Democratic officials in crisis and put a sharp focus on the workplace culture he has fostered during his three decades in public office.

 

A high-ranking HUD political appointee recalled a 2000 incident she characterized as so “inappropriate” that it has bothered her for more than two decades. She had only been on the job for about three weeks when she had a meeting scheduled with Cuomo and an official from the Treasury Department. She and the Treasury official were already at the conference table when Cuomo entered the room.

She stood to greet him, and she recalled Cuomo walking over — to hug her, then kiss her on the cheek.

“I remember being to this day mortified that he had done this to me in front of this official,” the woman recalled. After the meeting ended and Cuomo left, the Treasury official turned to ask her how long she and Cuomo had been friends. She responded that she had just started the job.

etc, etc, etc..We all know you arent reading it anyway. 

Cuomo has been getting away with this for decades folks.FOR DECADES. 

 

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30 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

Cuomo has publicly said he will never resign. So your point would be what exactly? 

My point:

• The press isn't ignoring it.

• Every drip, drip, drip is killing his future political prospects.  Six months ago he was the toast of the town, winning Emmys, getting book deals, and being hailed a future presidential candidate.  But he's increasingly losing support and becoming persona non grata. 

• Pressure is continuing to mount on him to step down, the state legislature to take matters into their own hands, and even has prompted the NYAG to launch an investigation.

He might serve out his term and fulfill this defiant declaration to never resign.  Others have survived major scandal because their own party lacked the spine to take on one of their own - Clinton, Trump come to mind.  But that story is still being written.  It's certainly not a foregone conclusion.

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We keep moving the goal posts. Nothing will happen to Cuomo, no impeachment, no resignation and so far, no lawsuits.

So Cuomo wont win a fourth term as Governor? Well, probably almost 100% of the governors out there dont win a fourth term either.He is going to get roughed up in the press a bit, but all-in-all, nothing is going to happen to him other than what is common to almost 100% of all governors. 

The story on fudging the numbers goes back to 5-20-20 to 5-26-20. No one covered it then, no one is going to cover this in a few weeks.

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38 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

We keep moving the goal posts. Nothing will happen to Cuomo, no impeachment, no resignation and so far, no lawsuits.

So Cuomo wont win a fourth term as Governor? Well, probably almost 100% of the governors out there dont win a fourth term either.He is going to get roughed up in the press a bit, but all-in-all, nothing is going to happen to him other than what is common to almost 100% of all governors. 

The story on fudging the numbers goes back to 5-20-20 to 5-26-20. No one covered it then, no one is going to cover this in a few weeks.

You’re moving the goalposts. First it was “no one is covering it.”  Then it was pointed out that several outlets were talking about it and the coverage has only ratcheted up significantly since. And yes, while he was fudging the numbers back in May, it *was* being investigated. That report came out in January. Just because you didn’t see it in the papers before then doesn’t mean it was being ignored. 

Then it was “it changes nothing” but it’s clear that his political career is all but dead. He was being feted as a presidential candidate. That’s all but certainly dead. He’s got the NYAG investigating him and now the NY Senate majority leader (a Democrat) calling for his resignation. Things are building. Thugs and bullies don’t necessarily scare easily or leave without being dragged out. But to act like nothing is happening here is just being stubborn.  It’s clear that much has changed with regard to both Cuomo’s career and his legacy. 

The best thing to do is just let it play out. 

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7 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Cuomo has publicly said he will never resign. So your point would be what exactly? 

I guess you didnt read the article I posted. I will fort it for you to NOT READ again:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cuomo-toxic-workplace/2021/03/06/7f7c5b9c-7dd3-11eb-b3d1-9e5aa3d5220c_story.html

Cuomo’s behavior created ‘hostile, toxic’ workplace culture for decades, former aides say

The allegations have engulfed one of the country’s top Democratic officials in crisis and put a sharp focus on the workplace culture he has fostered during his three decades in public office.

 

A high-ranking HUD political appointee recalled a 2000 incident she characterized as so “inappropriate” that it has bothered her for more than two decades. She had only been on the job for about three weeks when she had a meeting scheduled with Cuomo and an official from the Treasury Department. She and the Treasury official were already at the conference table when Cuomo entered the room.

She stood to greet him, and she recalled Cuomo walking over — to hug her, then kiss her on the cheek.

“I remember being to this day mortified that he had done this to me in front of this official,” the woman recalled. After the meeting ended and Cuomo left, the Treasury official turned to ask her how long she and Cuomo had been friends. She responded that she had just started the job.

etc, etc, etc..We all know you arent reading it anyway. 

Cuomo has been getting away with this for decades folks.FOR DECADES. 

 

I was responding to you saying he would never be held accountable and would easily win re-election.  He is being asked to resign, by his own party no less, and his approval is in the crapper in NY.  So once again, your grandiose suppositions are proving to be ill conceived.

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4 hours ago, TitanTiger said:

You’re moving the goalposts. First it was “no one is covering it.”  Then it was pointed out that several outlets were talking about it and the coverage has only ratcheted up significantly since. And yes, while he was fudging the numbers back in May, it *was* being investigated. That report came out in January. Just because you didn’t see it in the papers before then doesn’t mean it was being ignored. 

Then it was “it changes nothing” but it’s clear that his political career is all but dead. He was being feted as a presidential candidate. That’s all but certainly dead. He’s got the NYAG investigating him and now the NY Senate majority leader (a Democrat) calling for his resignation. Things are building. Thugs and bullies don’t necessarily scare easily or leave without being dragged out. But to act like nothing is happening here is just being stubborn.  It’s clear that much has changed with regard to both Cuomo’s career and his legacy. 

The best thing to do is just let it play out. 

The story has been out there since last May. He was given an Emmy and a Book deal SINCE then. No one in the MSM was covering it until the NYAG finally spoke up and still CNN has aired only four brief stories on it. Cuomo is going nowhere. His "political career" this is almost too funny to even shoot down. He will finish his third term as governor and stands a good chance of re-election, That's a year from now. He is following EXACTLY what I said: The Northam Model, and is not going to resign. No one is going to impeach him, this is the Dem Party. So. he lies to the DOJ, The People of NY, and America, has three decades of harassing women and...he rides off into the sunset with either 3 or four terms as governor of NY....

Edited March 8, 2021 by DKW 86

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2 hours ago, Brad_ATX said:

I was responding to you saying he would never be held accountable and would easily win re-election.  He is being asked to resign, by his own party no less, and his approval is in the crapper in NY.  So once again, your grandiose suppositions are proving to be ill conceived.

I never said he would win election. Not once. He will be left in office to try and win a fourth term, something that rarely happens in America. Him losing his fourth term wont mean anything. Almost no one does that.

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On 3/2/2021 at 3:51 PM, TitanTiger said:

The Northram situation really isn't comparable.  Regardless of how bad you think a yearbook photo from 36 years ago in blackface is or should be, no one would put that in the same league as falsifying nursing home deaths from COVID due to a decision a governor made, or now three claims of sexual harassment or unwanted sexual advances.  Whatever did or didn't happen to Northram is not a guide for what will or won't happen to Cuomo.

Completely Wrong as usual...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/03/why-andrew-cuomo-isnt-going-to-resign/618224/

But, barring a burst of new allegations, Cuomo absolutely will not resign. “The old resignation playbook is out,” a Cuomo adviser told me, requesting anonymity to discuss the private deliberations that have been going on over the past week. Very much on the minds of Cuomo and his team is Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, who refused to resign in 2019 after the discovery of an old racist yearbook page, but who today remains popular with voters. “There’s a new path, and that is to wait it out,” is how the adviser put it to me. Even several OF THE SMALL NUMBER of New York politicians and advocates who have openly called for Cuomo to leave office seem to doubt that he will. But the pressure could scare him out of running for what he wants most: a fourth term, which he is up for next year. And with how Cuomo’s private conversations have been going lately, the anti-Cuomo forces may be getting their way.

1) Northam's Way is how Cuomo is reportedly going to address this. Just wait for the American People and NY People to grow weary of it all. Kind of a salute to Clintonism too.
2) "Small Number of NY Politicians and Advocates" calling for him to resign...here The Atlantic admits the truth that all this is very likely to blow over as there is actually only a small number of people asking Cuomo to resign.

Edited March 9, 2021 by DKW 86

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19 hours ago, TitanTiger said:

You’re moving the goalposts. First it was “no one is covering it.”  Then it was pointed out that several outlets were talking about it and the coverage has only ratcheted up significantly since. And yes, while he was fudging the numbers back in May, it *was* being investigated. That report came out in January. Just because you didn’t see it in the papers before then doesn’t mean it was being ignored. 

Then it was “it changes nothing” but it’s clear that his political career is all but dead. He was being feted as a presidential candidate. That’s all but certainly dead. He’s got the NYAG investigating him and now the NY Senate majority leader (a Democrat) calling for his resignation. Things are building. Thugs and bullies don’t necessarily scare easily or leave without being dragged out. But to act like nothing is happening here is just being stubborn.  It’s clear that much has changed with regard to both Cuomo’s career and his legacy. 

The best thing to do is just let it play out. 

David obviously has a rigid paradigm he has to support, facts be damned.  

"The allegations have engulfed one of the country’s top Democratic officials in crisis and put a sharp focus on the workplace culture he has fostered during his three decades in public office."

Yeah, the most important parts of that statement is the reference he has spent three decades in public office.

Edited March 9, 2021 by homersapien

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2 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Completely Wrong as usual...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/03/why-andrew-cuomo-isnt-going-to-resign/618224/

But, barring a burst of new allegations, Cuomo absolutely will not resign. “The old resignation playbook is out,” a Cuomo adviser told me, requesting anonymity to discuss the private deliberations that have been going on over the past week. Very much on the minds of Cuomo and his team is Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, who refused to resign in 2019 after the discovery of an old racist yearbook page, but who today remains popular with voters. “There’s a new path, and that is to wait it out,” is how the adviser put it to me. Even several OF THE SMALL NUMBER of New York politicians and advocates who have openly called for Cuomo to leave office seem to doubt that he will. But the pressure could scare him out of running for what he wants most: a fourth term, which he is up for next year. And with how Cuomo’s private conversations have been going lately, the anti-Cuomo forces may be getting their way.

1) Northam's Way is how Cuomo is reportedly going to address this. Just wait for the American People and NY People to grow weary of it all. Kind of a salute to Clintonism too.
2) "Small Number of NY Politicians and Advocates" calling for him to resign...here The Atlantic admits the truth that all this is very likely to blow over as there is actually only a small number of people asking Cuomo to resign.

I’m not wrong. The situations are not on the same level of seriousness, no matter how much inspiration Cuomo gleans from it to cling to power. 

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On 3/7/2021 at 7:39 AM, bigbird said:

At least I'm not Cuomo

-Les Miles

Nevermind...

-Les Miles

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1 hour ago, TitanTiger said:

I’m not wrong. The situations are not on the same level of seriousness, no matter how much inspiration Cuomo gleans from it to cling to power. 

Yea, you are. Never expected you to say so. Nope. Never once expected you to say it.

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2 minutes ago, DKW 86 said:

Yea, you are. Never expected you to say so. Nope. Never once expected you to say it.

Note to self:  DKW said you're wrong about something, meaning you're probably on the right track.  Stay the course for now.

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2 hours ago, homersapien said:

David obviously has a rigid paradigm he has to support, facts be damned.  

"The allegations have engulfed one of the country’s top Democratic officials in crisis and put a sharp focus on the workplace culture he has fostered during his three decades in public office."

Yeah, the most important parts of that statement is the reference he has spent three decades in public office.

I am sorry homey, we know that you have never given a damn about women's issues. Sorry to piss you off.....only I am not sorry in the least. You, as is your want, get it wrong again.

He has been sexually harassing women for the 30 years he was in office. No one was talking about him being in office 30 years, LMMFAO...

 

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9 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

Note to self:  DKW said you're wrong about something, meaning you're probably on the right track.  Stay the course for now.

You know Trump had the "Critical Mass of Public Opinion" thingy against him too. 
I am sorry but could you point me to where exactly he was impeached and removed from office? 

Seems to me someone here told everyone for 4 years to beat him at the ballot box while about a half a dozen here clutched their pearls and whined incessantly.  That someone was myself. Who was right? Me , myself, and I. Who got it wrong? The Pearly Whiners did for four+ years. So, I will again wait for history to march right on by...and LMAO one more time.  

Edited March 9, 2021 by DKW 86

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Cuomo faces new sexual harassment allegation, this time at Executive Mansion

Female aide claims governor touched her inappropriately; complaint reported to AG

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Cuomo-faces-new-allegation-of-sexual-harassment-16011424.php