Election Day

[jared52 4,354]

7 hours ago, homersapien said:

Who's goal?   What's your goal??

The goal of Democrats, or at least A goal because of the deep divide in the country. My goal was simply to point out that part of that divide has come from social media and forums where people tear one another apart add call each other’s political parties like DemocRATS! and ReThuglicans. 

[McLoofus 35,182]

Is this one of those guys y'all were talking about for a "centrist" ticket? If yes, yeah, no. What a tool.

 

[homersapien 11,409]

7 hours ago, jared52 said:

The goal of Democrats, or at least A goal because of the deep divide in the country. My goal was simply to point out that part of that divide has come from social media and forums where people tear one another apart add call each other’s political parties like DemocRATS! and ReThuglicans. 

I have no problem with meeting actual "conservatives" half way for the good of the country.

But, our divide comes from the racist and immoral behavior of (many, if not most current) members of a political party - Republicans.  This is exhibited by their unquestioning and traitorous support for a would-be autocrat.  And it's ongoing:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/06/the-election-that-broke-the-republican-party-434797

.......“This is something out of the Pinochet regime. These Republicans who are indulging the president, they all know better. That’s what I find so disturbing: They know exactly what they’re doing, and they don’t care,” Venable said. “This effort to question the integrity of the electoral process of the United States of America — by people of great power and prominence, people who know it has zero basis in fact — it’s just astonishing to me. And it’s frightening.” - Josh Venable.......

 

I am no more interested in reconciling with these Republicans than I would have interest in reconciling with a white supremacy organization. A thug is a thug.  **** em.

[AUFriction 1,179]

33 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Is this one of those guys y'all were talking about for a "centrist" ticket? If yes, yeah, no. What a tool.

 

Crenshaw is a Trumper to the core.

[homersapien 11,409]

30 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Is this one of those guys y'all were talking about for a "centrist" ticket? If yes, yeah, no. What a tool.

 

So, these people think controlling the pandemic using a common sense approach based on science must necessarily be a "super secret plan" ?

Says all you need to know about them.

This says even more:

 

White House hit with fresh outbreak of coronavirus cases

The White House has been hit with a fresh wave of coronavirus infections, an administration official said Saturday, with Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and five other Trump aides having received positive test results in the period around Election Day.

Meadows, who tested positive Wednesday, at first told others not to disclose his condition. But after his diagnosis became public late Friday, the official confirmed that a broader outbreak threatens to create a new crisis in the West Wing just as Meadows and other top aides are trying to help President Trump navigate a bitter loss at the polls to Democratic President-elect Joe Biden.

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, declined to name the affected aides or provide information about their conditions. In addition to the six White House staffers, a Trump campaign official said campaign adviser Nick Trainer has also tested positive.

The outbreak comes as coronavirus cases are spiking across the nation: Saturday brought more than 134,000 new cases — setting a new record for the fourth day in a row — and deaths and hospitalizations are also on the rise. Biden may have won the presidency by relentlessly attacking Trump’s decision to downplay the severity of the virus and disregard basic advice from public health experts for combating a pandemic that so far has killed more than 237,000 Americans.

Meadows, for instance, has rarely worn a mask in public, has ridiculed Democratic governors for locking down bars, restaurants and other businesses and has fought with federal science advisers about the administration’s response to the pandemic.

The influence of health professionals such as Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease specialist, has steadily waned under Meadows’s management. And Meadows has supported Trump’s strategy of pressing to reopen schools and send people back to work, arguing last month on CNN’s “State of the Union” that “we’re not going to control the pandemic.”

A majority of Americans have disapproved of the president’s handling of the coronavirus almost from the start. As Election Day neared with the outbreak raging, some older voters, politically moderate women and other constituencies blamed Trump for doing too little to blunt it.

Declared the winner on Saturday, Biden has promised that, as president, he will listen to public health experts and try to bring the pandemic under control. Trump has not conceded the election, however, and his campaign issued a statement Saturday accusing Biden of “falsely posing” as the victor.

The White House outbreak is at least the third wave of infections to strike White House employees and residents. The first erupted in the days after a Sept. 26 Rose Garden ceremony honoring Trump’s most recent appointee to the U.S. Supreme Court, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, which Fauci called a “superspreader event.”

Trump, first lady Melania Trump and their son Barron Trump all tested positive, and Trump was briefly hospitalized. Senior adviser Hope Hicks and White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany also were infected.

Trump plays down the pandemic after his hospital release

Two weeks later, at least five aides or advisers to Vice President Pence tested positive, including Pence Chief of Staff Marc Short.

Despite the repeated infections, Trump, Meadows and their allies have continued to flout public health guidelines, holding large indoor gatherings where few people wear masks or follow advice for social distancing. On election night, for instance, Trump hosted an event at the White House billed as a victory party where people mingled close together and few wore masks.

“The contrast is really disheartening between what we’re seeing at the White House and what we know to be critical to controlling the virus. As a scientist — and a parent — it’s particularly exasperating,” said Ben Sommers, a doctor who teaches at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

“Kids are wearing masks for soccer outside and for hours a day in schools, and millions of children gave up trick-or-treating this year to avoid large crowds. Meanwhile, key White House leaders can’t bring themselves to follow those same guidelines,” Sommers said.

It is not clear when or how Meadows became infected. But it often takes several days after exposure to the virus before an infection can be detected through testing. Though Meadows tested positive on Wednesday, his diagnosis did not become widely known until late Friday, when it was first reported by Bloomberg News.

Many White House staffers are angry with Meadows for not disclosing his infection sooner, according to the administration official who confirmed the new infections. The official said top White House officials and Cabinet officers who had close contact with Meadows in the days around Election Day had been kept in the dark.

Meadows had traveled with Trump for whirlwind election rallies in several states during the week before his diagnosis. The stops included Wisconsin and Michigan, states where coronavirus cases are spiking.

Last Sunday, Meadows was photographed greeting supporters lined up along a barricade at a Trump rally in Opa-Locka, Fla. Meadows was a yard or so away from the crowd. Neither he nor many in the tightly packed group of supporters wore masks.

On Election Day, Meadows visited the campaign office with Trump, where he was photographed standing close to campaign and White House staffers. Later, he watched election returns with Trump in the family’s residence quarters and the Map Room. And in the wee hours after midnight, he was at the White House as Trump addressed supporters during an election night party in the East Room.

The event included a buffet where people could load their own plates with chicken wings and sliders, according to one person who attended. “It was basically like a large cocktail party,” the attendee said.

Those milling about included Cabinet officials, allies and donors. Meadows was in and out of the room but walked in with the Trump family just before the president spoke. He meandered toward the back of the room, speaking to a handful of reporters and standing amid the throng, the attendee said.

Later Wednesday, Meadows worked from campaign headquarters, but did not notify campaign staff that he had tested positive, officials said. Instead, he told only the president and Jared Kushner, officials said.

Meadows did not respond to calls seeking information about his diagnosis, symptoms and whereabouts. He was not seen at the White House on Saturday, as huge crowds gathered outside the gates to celebrate Biden’s victory.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-virus-outbreak-white-house/2020/11/07/6688f12a-2128-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html

 

 

[McLoofus 35,182]

33 minutes ago, homersapien said:

So, these people think controlling the pandemic using a common sense approach based on science must necessarily be a "super secret plan" ?

Says all you need to know about them.

This says even more:

 

White House hit with fresh outbreak of coronavirus cases

The White House has been hit with a fresh wave of coronavirus infections, an administration official said Saturday, with Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and five other Trump aides having received positive test results in the period around Election Day.

Meadows, who tested positive Wednesday, at first told others not to disclose his condition. But after his diagnosis became public late Friday, the official confirmed that a broader outbreak threatens to create a new crisis in the West Wing just as Meadows and other top aides are trying to help President Trump navigate a bitter loss at the polls to Democratic President-elect Joe Biden.

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, declined to name the affected aides or provide information about their conditions. In addition to the six White House staffers, a Trump campaign official said campaign adviser Nick Trainer has also tested positive.

The outbreak comes as coronavirus cases are spiking across the nation: Saturday brought more than 134,000 new cases — setting a new record for the fourth day in a row — and deaths and hospitalizations are also on the rise. Biden may have won the presidency by relentlessly attacking Trump’s decision to downplay the severity of the virus and disregard basic advice from public health experts for combating a pandemic that so far has killed more than 237,000 Americans.

Meadows, for instance, has rarely worn a mask in public, has ridiculed Democratic governors for locking down bars, restaurants and other businesses and has fought with federal science advisers about the administration’s response to the pandemic.

The influence of health professionals such as Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease specialist, has steadily waned under Meadows’s management. And Meadows has supported Trump’s strategy of pressing to reopen schools and send people back to work, arguing last month on CNN’s “State of the Union” that “we’re not going to control the pandemic.”

A majority of Americans have disapproved of the president’s handling of the coronavirus almost from the start. As Election Day neared with the outbreak raging, some older voters, politically moderate women and other constituencies blamed Trump for doing too little to blunt it.

Declared the winner on Saturday, Biden has promised that, as president, he will listen to public health experts and try to bring the pandemic under control. Trump has not conceded the election, however, and his campaign issued a statement Saturday accusing Biden of “falsely posing” as the victor.

The White House outbreak is at least the third wave of infections to strike White House employees and residents. The first erupted in the days after a Sept. 26 Rose Garden ceremony honoring Trump’s most recent appointee to the U.S. Supreme Court, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, which Fauci called a “superspreader event.”

Trump, first lady Melania Trump and their son Barron Trump all tested positive, and Trump was briefly hospitalized. Senior adviser Hope Hicks and White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany also were infected.

Trump plays down the pandemic after his hospital release

Two weeks later, at least five aides or advisers to Vice President Pence tested positive, including Pence Chief of Staff Marc Short.

Despite the repeated infections, Trump, Meadows and their allies have continued to flout public health guidelines, holding large indoor gatherings where few people wear masks or follow advice for social distancing. On election night, for instance, Trump hosted an event at the White House billed as a victory party where people mingled close together and few wore masks.

“The contrast is really disheartening between what we’re seeing at the White House and what we know to be critical to controlling the virus. As a scientist — and a parent — it’s particularly exasperating,” said Ben Sommers, a doctor who teaches at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

“Kids are wearing masks for soccer outside and for hours a day in schools, and millions of children gave up trick-or-treating this year to avoid large crowds. Meanwhile, key White House leaders can’t bring themselves to follow those same guidelines,” Sommers said.

It is not clear when or how Meadows became infected. But it often takes several days after exposure to the virus before an infection can be detected through testing. Though Meadows tested positive on Wednesday, his diagnosis did not become widely known until late Friday, when it was first reported by Bloomberg News.

Many White House staffers are angry with Meadows for not disclosing his infection sooner, according to the administration official who confirmed the new infections. The official said top White House officials and Cabinet officers who had close contact with Meadows in the days around Election Day had been kept in the dark.

Meadows had traveled with Trump for whirlwind election rallies in several states during the week before his diagnosis. The stops included Wisconsin and Michigan, states where coronavirus cases are spiking.

Last Sunday, Meadows was photographed greeting supporters lined up along a barricade at a Trump rally in Opa-Locka, Fla. Meadows was a yard or so away from the crowd. Neither he nor many in the tightly packed group of supporters wore masks.

On Election Day, Meadows visited the campaign office with Trump, where he was photographed standing close to campaign and White House staffers. Later, he watched election returns with Trump in the family’s residence quarters and the Map Room. And in the wee hours after midnight, he was at the White House as Trump addressed supporters during an election night party in the East Room.

The event included a buffet where people could load their own plates with chicken wings and sliders, according to one person who attended. “It was basically like a large cocktail party,” the attendee said.

Those milling about included Cabinet officials, allies and donors. Meadows was in and out of the room but walked in with the Trump family just before the president spoke. He meandered toward the back of the room, speaking to a handful of reporters and standing amid the throng, the attendee said.

Later Wednesday, Meadows worked from campaign headquarters, but did not notify campaign staff that he had tested positive, officials said. Instead, he told only the president and Jared Kushner, officials said.

Meadows did not respond to calls seeking information about his diagnosis, symptoms and whereabouts. He was not seen at the White House on Saturday, as huge crowds gathered outside the gates to celebrate Biden’s victory.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-virus-outbreak-white-house/2020/11/07/6688f12a-2128-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html

Mainly just disappointing to see this guy trolling like another low rent trumpbot. You can tell he had that tweet queued up for some time. 

Honestly hoping I got the names mixed up and am thinking of the wrong guy.

[AUDub 11,160]

19 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Mainly just disappointing to see this guy trolling like another low rent trumpbot. You can tell he had that tweet queued up for some time. 

Honestly hoping I got the names mixed up and am thinking of the wrong guy.

Nope that's him. Tried to tell y'all. 

[AUDub 11,160]

4 hours ago, jared52 said:

The goal of Democrats, or at least A goal because of the deep divide in the country. My goal was simply to point out that part of that divide has come from social media and forums where people tear one another apart add call each other’s political parties like DemocRATS! and ReThuglicans. 

I prefer Demoncrat, personally. 

[AuCivilEng1 11,012]

[cole256 17,084]

20 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Joe being Joe: "We have 230 Million-Thousand dead..."

Just how many is a Million-Thousand? Is that a Trillion?

Well the other guy didn't know the difference between poll and poles so I guess tomato, tomato

[McLoofus 35,182]

4 hours ago, cole256 said:

Well the other guy didn't know the difference between poll and poles so I guess tomato, tomato

Or the difference between a hotel and a landscaping company.

More than happy for these weak ass clowns to make fun of his speaking quirks. I'll take that after over the crap we've been hearing King Orange Jackass say-and do, and not do- *on purpose* these last few years.

[DKW 86 7,437]

6 hours ago, cole256 said:

Well the other guy didn't know the difference between poll and poles so I guess tomato, tomato

I 100% Agree. We had two very bad choices to make. Same as 2016.

 

[DKW 86 7,437]

1 hour ago, McLoofus said:

Or the difference between a hotel and a landscaping company.

More than happy for these weak ass clowns to make fun of his speaking quirks. I'll take that after over the crap we've been hearing King Orange Jackass say-and do, and not do- *on purpose* these last few years.

If you are happy that Mr "Never met a war he didnt like" The pervo that has molested woman and lil girls on video for years is now representing you, the man that wrote the legislation that has wiped out a generation of Black Males and their families, you need to raise your standards. Is he better than Trump? Yes! By about a .05 and that is all.

[AUFriction 1,179]

2 hours ago, McLoofus said:

Or the difference between a hotel and a landscaping company.

More than happy for these weak ass clowns to make fun of his speaking quirks. I'll take that after over the crap we've been hearing King Orange Jackass say-and do, and not do- *on purpose* these last few years.

Or how to spell coffee or hamburgers. 

[AUDub 11,160]

17 hours ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

My, how the turn tables. 

[AuCivilEng1 11,012]

6 minutes ago, AUDub said:

My, how the turn tables. 

Looks like the snowflakes are still snow flaking. I know I’m supposed to be above it all. But I’m not. I hope the are suffering mentally. I also hope that he’s able to swindle them into paying his campaign debts. Trumper tears sustain me. 😈

[AUDub 11,160]

Just now, AuCivilEng1 said:

Looks like the snowflakes are still snow flaking. I know I’m supposed to be above it all. But I’m not. I hope the are suffering mentally. I also hope that he’s able to swindle them into paying his campaign debts. Trumper tears sustain me. 😈

One of Trump's verified twitter accounts - the War Room, I believe - is tweeting out a site asking for donations. 

The conditions are that about half of the funds raised will go toward campaign debt. 

[AuCivilEng1 11,012]

1 minute ago, AUDub said:

One of Trump's verified twitter accounts - the War Room, I believe - is tweeting out a site asking for donations. 

The conditions are that about half of the funds raised will go toward campaign debt. 

Yea I saw that. I hope the cult pours millions of dollars into him. Let him go out with a final bang of swindling people out of their money. If they care about him they’ll donate. I urge them to do the right thing. 

[AUFriction 1,179]

5 hours ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

Yea I saw that. I hope the cult pours millions of dollars into him. Let him go out with a final bang of swindling people out of their money. If they care about him they’ll donate. I urge them to do the right thing. 

I’ve heard the campaign is broke, and they don’t have the money to keep fighting the election results.

[TitanTiger 20,506]

5 hours ago, AUDub said:

One of Trump's verified twitter accounts - the War Room, I believe - is tweeting out a site asking for donations. 

The conditions are that about half of the funds raised will go toward campaign debt. 

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

[McLoofus 35,182]

TIL that if you're the Secretary of State for Georgia and you rig an election, you become governor, BUT if you're the Secretary of State for Georgia and you DON'T rig an election, you're asked to resign.

Go Dawgs!

[KnightTiger 205]

if anything good comes of this it looks like both the political boards on tigerdoppings and the scout forums may go away permanently ive never joined either board but ive been lurking on both boards political forums past few days and vomit is the only way i can describe it threads and accounts getting zapped both may be shutdown permanently by the time 2024 election comes around

[AUDub 11,160]

39 minutes ago, KnightTiger said:

if anything good comes of this it looks like both the political boards on tigerdoppings and the scout forums may go away permanently ive never joined either board but ive been lurking on both boards political forums past few days and vomit is the only way i can describe it threads and accounts getting zapped both may be shutdown permanently by the time 2024 election comes around

It's very easy for a board to morph into a toxic ****hole if the mods aren't on the ball. moot learned that the hard way with 4chan, and Hotwheels learned it with 8chan. Gab's owner doesn't care, but no one wants to host them. 

The TigerDroppings forum is...unique. I've had some fun trolling them though. Surprised they haven't banned me yet. 

[SLAG-91 1,483]

12 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

I 100% Agree. We had two very bad choices to make. Same as 2016.

 

Yep. This go-around, it was Trump vs. Not Trump, with Joe Biden playing the role of Not Trump.

Dems played it correctly when they coalesced to Biden...I don't think any of their other possible choices could have won. Realpolitik in action, as it has been before, is now, and will be forever.

To that end, Dems would be wise to not overplay whatever hand they believe they have.  If the Senate stays Republican and the HoR gets closer to an even split, that's no overwhelming mandate.

[wdefromtx 3,159]

11 minutes ago, SLAG-91 said:

Yep. This go-around, it was Trump vs. Not Trump, with Joe Biden playing the role of Not Trump.

Dems played it correctly when they coalesced to Biden...I don't think any of their other possible choices could have won. Realpolitik in action, as it has been before, is now, and will be forever.

To that end, Dems would be wise to not overplay whatever hand they believe they have.  If the Senate stays Republican and the HoR gets closer to an even split, that's no overwhelming mandate.

And just like 2016 we will have half the country saying not my president and the election was rigged. Both choices again were turds. Let’s hope the republicans keep control of the senate.