Report: Signee Kalvaraz Bessent Arrested

[msg6367 1]

Either way....it's still a hot mess for an athlete. Let's just hope this kid comes out on the other side of it a lot smarter and with his future as an Auburn Tiger not in jeopardy. He is very young and there's always hope for redemption.

Agree.

[Raven_tiger 5]

I'm sorry to say but if any of you believe he was in a car and did not know there was pot in there I don't know what to tell you.....I do have some land on the moon that I'm selling really cheap if you're interested.

It MAY not have been his, he may not have smoked it at all, but it is his JUDGEMENT that he went off with people in a car where there was drugs. Its a maturity issue and IMO shows a lack of good decision making. This is a nearly 20 year old kid and I think he has two kids of his own.....come on. THREE DAYS AFTER SIGNING DAY. I feel pretty certain all these recruits get a speech from Gus when they sign......"You are an AU man now, you do what you need to do in school and keep your nose clean because once you signed that letter you represent Auburn, and we won't tolerate players who tarnish that". That includes making wise decisions about the company you keep.

How will Gus handle this, IDK. I think he will take a wait and see approach to let the facts come out and make a decision then, but honestly in the end I think he cuts him loose. Gus just doesn't seem to play with this stuff and after seeing the problems that arose under Chizik I'm sure he has a good reason why. Sometimes letting a good player go is the BEST thing to do for the entire team.....look at Michael Dyer. I guess Gus will do what he feels is the best thing to do for both AU and for this young man. Gus has shown all of us that he knows better than we do and he will do what is the best thing for AU and for the team, period.

This, 100%. It has nothing to do with high horses or illegal vs should be legal. It's all about putting yourself in situations that set you up for failure, and that includes associating with people who make bad choices.

I did drug interdiction for 5 years. Believe me, if there is 202 grams of marijuana in a car, you can smell it no matter how it is packaged or sealed. If you didn't know what the smell was, believe me, you'd ask what it was that smelled so bad.

That being said, we have to wait for the process to play out a little further before we can cast aspersions onto anything except for poor decision-making skills (which, for the record, are not illegal yet). I hope information comes out that he just got in the car 30 seconds before that and he'd never met the people before.

So, tl;dr: wait and see from our moral high ground? :gofig:/>

To say that anyone in a car with 8 ounces of pot in it will know by the smell or he "just had to know" (seriously?) is very possibly inaccurate for more reasons than I care to mention here.

My gut tells me best case scenario he knew he was riding with some smokers, but the jury is still out on all this, and we don't even know if that is true.

I'm not speaking offhand. I searched for drugs for a living for 5 years with a drug dog. I've been in a lot of cars with weed in them.

That much pot will have an odor, and even if you can't identify that odor, you will notice it. That's not opinion, that's biology and chemistry.

Of course it will have an odor. That's where the concealment part comes in. Using your logic it would be impossible for someone to hide the odor of marijuana. That's not even considering masking smells like cologne, cigars, cigarettes, fresheners, etc.

For all I know he could have known something was up. However, to say he had to know because he would have undeniably smelled the pot because 8 ounces were involved is ridiculous. It's safe to say that many people have been in a car containing that much weed and never known it.

I rarely look under the seats in my car and would have no idea what's under them.

I think I'll go check under my seats now.

True, I cant tell you the number of times I've found drugs, guns, RPGs, etc under my car seats when I vacuum my car at those self service car washes. Very embarrassing to say the least... :-\

[IronMan70 3,277]

How could you ever trust this kid?I am sure the coaches told him how much we needed him,yet he still went out and got himself involved in selling drugs only two or three days after signing day. Better to go ahead and cut the cord now

You really are clueless, aren't you? If anything he got himself caught up in riding in a car he shouldn't have. In none of the reports has it been mentioned that the weed, gun, or paraphernalia was his. In fact, they have said they couldn't determine whom's it was. So, please, enlighten us all on how your clairvoyance has led you to the conclusion the officer's on scene couldn't conclude. While your at it can you give me tonight's powerball numbers too. If not, then take your ignorance elsewhere. It has been so nice not having to put up with your pissing and moaning all season. Interesting you only show up when there is something to complain and lament about. Whoa is you, now STHU.

Exactly Bird. He has standards all right, the standards of a blowhard. When he states as a fact that "he got himself involved in selling drugs", it implies he was dealing. That is not even close to being established at this time so it means two things. He is either ignorant, intentionally being a troll, or both.

As you say, the part about the smell can be smoke that has permeated the headliner over time. It doesn't necessarily have to be freshly smoked. It's also possible there may not have even been a smell. My daughter is in criminal justice and I know that when officers have a gut feeling they will often use the "smell reason" to get drivers to agree to a search. I have no problem with that by the way. The driver can refuse and a dog can be called in. No hit by the dog, no search.

The details will come out on this over the next few weeks and people need to hold off on drawing conclusions until they KNOW ALL THE FACTS.

[JamesG 0]

True story. I inherited my first truck from my father my senior year of hs. He forgot about a pistol he left under the drivers seat. I drove it to school for the whole year, then around Auburn's campus for 2 years before I found it. I had no idea. If my truck would've been searched for some reason I would've been screwed.

[metafour 4,969]

It's safe to say that many people have been in a car containing that much weed and never known it.

Not sure if serious....

[NoALtiger 3,868]

This much is true by reading through this thread- some folks like to argue, apparently for the sake of arguing. Please though, continue to beat this dead horse until new info and facts come out.

[auburn4ever 1,266]

So nothing has been said by coach Malzahn?

[Martian Manhunter 44]

I've consulted my drug experts, "Cheech" and "Chong" and they say... "What was the question, man?"

The Maui-Wowie/Labrador mix will definitely make one forget the question.

[Mikey 16,671]

True story. I inherited my first truck from my father my senior year of hs. He forgot about a pistol he left under the drivers seat. I drove it to school for the whole year, then around Auburn's campus for 2 years before I found it. I had no idea. If my truck would've been searched for some reason I would've been screwed.

Why? It's not illegal to have a pistol in your car in Alabama. Not illegal in most other states that I've checked. Mike Dyer got in trouble in Arkansas because the pistol he had was one with the serial numbers filed off.

Alabama now has an Open Carry Law. You can carry a pistol around in full view without a permit. If you want to conceal carry you can do like me and pay $10 to your local sheriff for a pistol permit. My wife has her permit and carries in her purse. It's no big deal. Second amendment and alla' that.

[tiger88 934]

It's safe to say that many people have been in a car containing that much weed and never known it.

Not sure if serious....

Then you obviously misinterpreted my meaning. "Many" doesn't imply a majority of people just that it has happened to quite a few people.

People who carry that amount of pot on them rarely advertise it to people that get in their car unless they have business knowing about it.

You don't think there are say thousands of people out there who at some time were in a car containing a large amount of pot and didn't know it was in there? If so, that is naive to me. Drug dealers have friends and family who don't know what they do and those people can end up in that situation. It happens.

[AUEngineer2016 407]

True story. I inherited my first truck from my father my senior year of hs. He forgot about a pistol he left under the drivers seat. I drove it to school for the whole year, then around Auburn's campus for 2 years before I found it. I had no idea. If my truck would've been searched for some reason I would've been screwed.

Why? It's not illegal to have a pistol in your car in Alabama. Not illegal in most other states that I've checked. Mike Dyer got in trouble in Arkansas because the pistol he had was one with the serial numbers filed off.

Alabama now has an Open Carry Law. You can carry a pistol around in full view without a permit. If you want to conceal carry you can do like me and pay $10 to your local sheriff for a pistol permit. My wife has her permit and carries in her purse. It's no big deal. Second amendment and alla' that.

This is true for Alabama, but not true for a lot of other states. Tennessee, for instance, requires a carry permit, so if he were to drive the truck anywhere other than Alabama (I think GA has a carry permit law) then he could have been booked for having a gun without a permit.

[oxford tiger12 0]

I am amazed at how many Auburn fans will excuse anything just so the football program can win another game or two. Kid was driving around at 10 o'clock at night in a state he did not live in, and the car he was riding in had a strong odor

of marijuana. The idea that he didn't know what was going on defies logic. Not one person on this board would believe such an excuse if it came from a bammer, Georgia, or LSU recruit

[AUTUmike 79]

True story. I inherited my first truck from my father my senior year of hs. He forgot about a pistol he left under the drivers seat. I drove it to school for the whole year, then around Auburn's campus for 2 years before I found it. I had no idea. If my truck would've been searched for some reason I would've been screwed.

Why? It's not illegal to have a pistol in your car in Alabama. Not illegal in most other states that I've checked. Mike Dyer got in trouble in Arkansas because the pistol he had was one with the serial numbers filed off.

Alabama now has an Open Carry Law. You can carry a pistol around in full view without a permit. If you want to conceal carry you can do like me and pay $10 to your local sheriff for a pistol permit. My wife has her permit and carries in her purse. It's no big deal. Second amendment and alla' that.

You can't carry a firearm on most campuses...

For example, even Alabama's Open Carry law prohibits a parent from even swining by school to pick their child up with a firearm in the vehicle.

[TexasTiger 12,974]

I am amazed at how many Auburn fans will excuse anything just so the football program can win another game or two. Kid was driving around at 10 o'clock at night in a state he did not live in, and the car he was riding in had a strong odor

of marijuana. The idea that he didn't know what was going on defies logic. Not one person on this board would believe such an excuse if it came from a bammer, Georgia, or LSU recruit

While it doesn't look good, you are acting like judge and jury based on a newspaper article. Some folks are minimizing his responsibility, while others of us are just annoyed at your know-it-all arrogance. Get over yourself. The situation with this young man will play out in time and I anticipate being okay with what Gus decides, whether it is discipline or removal.

[Metalsinger418 88]

Beating a dead horse here...

[tiger88 934]

I am amazed at how many Auburn fans will excuse anything just so the football program can win another game or two. Kid was driving around at 10 o'clock at night in a state he did not live in, and the car he was riding in had a strong odor

of marijuana. The idea that he didn't know what was going on defies logic. Not one person on this board would believe such an excuse if it came from a bammer, Georgia, or LSU recruit

Dude, you are speaking like someone who might be a complete idiot. Some are assuming guilt. Some, like me think it is very possible or likely he knew. Some, like me as well, have taken the "wait until all the evidence is in, because you never know" approach. A tiny % have said no harm even if he knew.

Has there ever been a police report that noted a "barely noticeable" odor of marijuana? Not many, if any.

[tiger88 934]

Beating a dead horse here...

You dead horse people need to find another thread. It's called debating, it happens on forums, get over it.

[BhamCAT 47]

"For example, even Alabama's Open Carry law prohibits a parent from even swining by school to pick their child up with a firearm in the vehicle."

Not true, might want to read up on that. I conceal carry in my child's school on a regular basis (no need to open carry there and cause issues). The school must have a sign that meets the legal standard, in plain view of any entrance you might have entered, that prohibits you to carry there.

[AUEngineer2016 407]

"For example, even Alabama's Open Carry law prohibits a parent from even swining by school to pick their child up with a firearm in the vehicle."

Not true, might want to read up on that. I conceal carry in my child's school on a regular basis (no need to open carry there and cause issues). The school must have a sign that meets the legal standard, in plain view of any entrance you might have entered, that prohibits you to carry there.

This is true. Auburn's campus buildings all now have this sign on every entrance, for example.

[selias 2,398]

I am amazed at how many Auburn fans will excuse anything just so the football program can win another game or two. Kid was driving around at 10 o'clock at night in a state he did not live in, and the car he was riding in had a strong odor

of marijuana. The idea that he didn't know what was going on defies logic. Not one person on this board would believe such an excuse if it came from a bammer, Georgia, or LSU recruit

Seriously dude...go take a long walk off a short pier already

[AUTUmike 79]

"For example, even Alabama's Open Carry law prohibits a parent from even swining by school to pick their child up with a firearm in the vehicle."

Not true, might want to read up on that. I conceal carry in my child's school on a regular basis (no need to open carry there and cause issues). The school must have a sign that meets the legal standard, in plain view of any entrance you might have entered, that prohibits you to carry there.

This is true. Auburn's campus buildings all now have this sign on every entrance, for example.

Yep, my mistake.

[Tiger Scout 92]

birds of a feather flock together. i bet if you gave him a piss test he would fail. you know when someone has a half pound especially at that age everyone talks trying to be cool

[BhamCAT 47]

Now that we have killed the horse, here is a pic of my new carry rig, it's a mixture of gray elephant and black elephant hide. I wanted to post on facebook that it came from Big Al.......wife wouldn't let me.

[homersapien 11,412]

The question is, what are the team rules about this situation? Do any of you know for certain? If he broke team rules, he should be dealt with accordingly. If he didn't, then he should stay. Captain Obvious has spoken!

Yes.....he definitely broke team rules by being in a car with pot. But, officially, he's not yet enrolled or on the team. :-\

You could (or do) have a future in the practice of law.

[Wareagletd 0]

True story. I inherited my first truck from my father my senior year of hs. He forgot about a pistol he left under the drivers seat. I drove it to school for the whole year, then around Auburn's campus for 2 years before I found it. I had no idea. If my truck would've been searched for some reason I would've been screwed.

Why? It's not illegal to have a pistol in your car in Alabama. Not illegal in most other states that I've checked. Mike Dyer got in trouble in Arkansas because the pistol he had was one with the serial numbers filed off.

Alabama now has an Open Carry Law. You can carry a pistol around in full view without a permit. If you want to conceal carry you can do like me and pay $10 to your local sheriff for a pistol permit. My wife has her permit and carries in her purse. It's no big deal. Second amendment and alla' that.

I think he would've been screwed because of a weapon in a school zone. Not sure tho.