Beating Clemson

[Piketiger1990 173]

Can we get Tubbs to give the pregame speech?, he did pretty well against top 10 teams. I'm hoping our D-line has a monster game but I feel sorry for Kevin Steele having to game plan for the best player in the country game one. Do you attack Watson and try to get the ball out of his hands quick, or rely on your D-line to get pressure. If Auburn can pull this one out Jordan Hare will be rocking for Texas AM and LSU.

[WarDamnEagleWDE 12,737]

It's like they would rather see Auburn lose just so they can be right.....mind boggling

Not me. I hope we beat the dog crap out of clemson. And I hope Gus comes out and makes me look like a fool about the stuff I've said about him here.

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

Watson running is what scares me. 3rd and 7? No problem. Jake Coker made our ends look silly carrying the ball and he's not even in the same solar system as Watson as far as athleticism goes.

Remember when we had Nick Marshall and Cam Newton bailing us out on 3rd and longs with their legs? *a single tear streaks down cheek*

This is exactly my concern as well!

[WarEagle1983 2,185]

It's certainly going to take more than Lawson have a great game that's for sure. He struggled some with outside containment last year...many did though. I have faith in our defense to keep things close for us.

Thus the comment about how he has to play up to his potential. Whether people want to argue the point or not... if we don't keep Watson under duress, this is going to be a VERY hard game to win. Lawson is our best hope to make that happen.

Agree. Just pointing out that he had some weaknesses as well and that one stood out the most to me last season. We all know Lawson is amazing. I'm not doubting that but as a whole our ends are going to have to be better with outside containment with Watson or the game could be over before it starts. Like Tiger pointed out we let someone like Coker run wild on us and he's nowhere close to being the athlete Watson is.

[cole256 17,084]

It's like they would rather see Auburn lose just so they can be right.....mind boggling

Not me. I hope we beat the dog crap out of clemson. And I hope Gus comes out and makes me look like a fool about the stuff I've said about him here.

This is just a tactic used if you don't agree and you just be objective. Disagree with a homer you're stupid, if you turn out to be right you can't say anything about it because now you're just a guy who was hoping we'd lose....no that's not it, I'm just the guy who remembered they have two maybe three first round picks on their offense and I said that it may pose a problem especially when we'll have a new corner starting and our best probably sitting out....

[AU64 10,122]

It's like they would rather see Auburn lose just so they can be right.....mind boggling

Not me. I hope we beat the dog crap out of clemson. And I hope Gus comes out and makes me look like a fool about the stuff I've said about him here.

This is just a tactic used if you don't agree and you just be objective. Disagree with a homer you're stupid, if you turn out to be right you can't say anything about it because now you're just a guy who was hoping we'd lose....no that's not it, I'm just the guy who remembered they have two maybe three first round picks on their offense and I said that it may pose a problem especially when we'll have a new corner starting and our best probably sitting out....

But in my mind, Clemson is still Clempson....no matter how many professional prospects they seem to have.

I have watched Auburn play Clemson off and on for more than 60 years and I never expect to see us lose to them...and that includes this year.

[cole256 17,084]

If only we could play in your mind though...

[Tiger 8,830]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

[PoetTiger 1,899]

It's like they would rather see Auburn lose just so they can be right.....mind boggling

Not me. I hope we beat the dog crap out of clemson. And I hope Gus comes out and makes me look like a fool about the stuff I've said about him here.

You are realist....not like some of these chicken littles that seem to implode at anything around here.

[PoetTiger 1,899]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

True. No one knows what the 2016 AU Tigers will look like....everyone just tossing out stuff to see what sticks. This Clemson team will be a tough out and Dabo will have then ready to play. I just think our guys will be ready to play as well. Should be an excitIng game!!

[johnnyAU 3,645]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

True. No one knows what the 2016 AU Tigers will look like....everyone just tossing out stuff to see what sticks. This Clemson team will be a tough out and Dabo will have then ready to play. I just think our guys will be ready to play as well. Should be an excitIng game!!

Yep,

[AU64 10,122]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

So people expect us to handle bama or the dawgs who have an ancient history of nationally ranked teams or fire the coaches....and yet a newcomer like Clemson is shown such respect ? I'm surprised that anyone would defend the prospect that Clemson will beat AU in Auburn....my gosh folks, you ought to have your alumni privileges revoked.

As for me.....I'm thinking that an AU team should always approach the Clemson game with the expectation of winning. I guess you can say it should be that way for every game.....but we know that's not the case against a few major rivals but IMO there should never be a doubt in the player's minds about beating Clemson. WDE

[BlueFrogg 11]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

So people expect us to handle bama or the dawgs who have an ancient history of nationally ranked teams or fire the coaches....and yet a newcomer like Clemson is shown such respect ? I'm surprised that anyone would defend the prospect that Clemson will beat AU in Auburn....my gosh folks, you ought to have your alumni privileges revoked.

As for me.....I'm thinking that an AU team should always approach the Clemson game with the expectation of winning. I guess you can say it should be that way for every game.....but we know that's not the case against a few major rivals but IMO there should never be a doubt in the player's minds about beating Clemson. WDE

Dang right

[PoetTiger 1,899]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

So people expect us to handle bama or the dawgs who have an ancient history of nationally ranked teams or fire the coaches....and yet a newcomer like Clemson is shown such respect ? I'm surprised that anyone would defend the prospect that Clemson will beat AU in Auburn....my gosh folks, you ought to have your alumni privileges revoked.

As for me.....I'm thinking that an AU team should always approach the Clemson game with the expectation of winning. I guess you can say it should be that way for every game.....but we know that's not the case against a few major rivals but IMO there should never be a doubt in the player's minds about beating Clemson. WDE

Dang right

I always have an expectation for the team to win. No team should ever expect to come in to JH, roll their helmet out there and win. Auburn fans will never get that low. This Clemson team regardless of history is good....very good. Deshaun Watson is legit and they are lethal at the skilled

positions. They are coming to play. But so is Auburn

[cole256 17,084]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

So people expect us to handle bama or the dawgs who have an ancient history of nationally ranked teams or fire the coaches....and yet a newcomer like Clemson is shown such respect ? I'm surprised that anyone would defend the prospect that Clemson will beat AU in Auburn....my gosh folks, you ought to have your alumni privileges revoked.

As for me.....I'm thinking that an AU team should always approach the Clemson game with the expectation of winning. I guess you can say it should be that way for every game.....but we know that's not the case against a few major rivals but IMO there should never be a doubt in the player's minds about beating Clemson. WDE

I can't speak for anybody else but I think we recruit the type of athletes that any given day we could win....I'm not silly enough to think the way we've been playing we should look down on any top ten team.

As far as historic and all of that...means absolutely nothing. Your school doesn't grant you super powers.....last year take all the players from bammer put them on wofford, then wofford wins the championship. Players dictate how good a school is. School didn't add inches on anybody's vertical or make them run a 4.4

[Tiger 8,830]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

So people expect us to handle bama or the dawgs who have an ancient history of nationally ranked teams or fire the coaches....and yet a newcomer like Clemson is shown such respect ? I'm surprised that anyone would defend the prospect that Clemson will beat AU in Auburn....my gosh folks, you ought to have your alumni privileges revoked.

As for me.....I'm thinking that an AU team should always approach the Clemson game with the expectation of winning. I guess you can say it should be that way for every game.....but we know that's not the case against a few major rivals but IMO there should never be a doubt in the player's minds about beating Clemson. WDE

I can't speak for anybody else but I think we recruit the type of athletes that any given day we could win....I'm not silly enough to think the way we've been playing we should look down on any top ten team.

As far as historic and all of that...means absolutely nothing. Your school doesn't grant you super powers.....last year take all the players from bammer put them on wofford, then wofford wins the championship. Players dictate how good a school is. School didn't add inches on anybody's vertical or make them run a 4.4

Well said, sir.

[AU64 10,122]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

So people expect us to handle bama or the dawgs who have an ancient history of nationally ranked teams or fire the coaches....and yet a newcomer like Clemson is shown such respect ? I'm surprised that anyone would defend the prospect that Clemson will beat AU in Auburn....my gosh folks, you ought to have your alumni privileges revoked.

As for me.....I'm thinking that an AU team should always approach the Clemson game with the expectation of winning. I guess you can say it should be that way for every game.....but we know that's not the case against a few major rivals but IMO there should never be a doubt in the player's minds about beating Clemson. WDE

I can't speak for anybody else but I think we recruit the type of athletes that any given day we could win....I'm not silly enough to think the way we've been playing we should look down on any top ten team.

As far as historic and all of that...means absolutely nothing. Your school doesn't grant you super powers.....last year take all the players from bammer put them on wofford, then wofford wins the championship. Players dictate how good a school is. School didn't add inches on anybody's vertical or make them run a 4.4

Well said, sir.

Dang , it that's true that sure changes my perspective. I live a few minutes from Wofford and know for a fact that they don't have indoor practice facilities or million-dollar weight rooms or multimillion dollar coaches with untold numbers of assistants and specialists . Of course there is the drawback that the majority of Bama players could not qualify academically at Wofford … Or managed to stay there if they happened to get accepted .

Seems like Bama and the other SEC schools are wasting a huge amount of money with all of this peripheral stuff .... And to think we have fired strength and conditioning coaches over the misbegotten believe that they have failed to properly develop our young athletes.

Winning at college football sounds easier than I previously understood .

[PoetTiger 1,899]

That's just not a realistic way to view modern day Clemson JMO though. They are in a better spot right now than we are. Not saying we should expect to lose, but I'm seeing some overconfidence like we didn't just go 7-6

So people expect us to handle bama or the dawgs who have an ancient history of nationally ranked teams or fire the coaches....and yet a newcomer like Clemson is shown such respect ? I'm surprised that anyone would defend the prospect that Clemson will beat AU in Auburn....my gosh folks, you ought to have your alumni privileges revoked.

As for me.....I'm thinking that an AU team should always approach the Clemson game with the expectation of winning. I guess you can say it should be that way for every game.....but we know that's not the case against a few major rivals but IMO there should never be a doubt in the player's minds about beating Clemson. WDE

I can't speak for anybody else but I think we recruit the type of athletes that any given day we could win....I'm not silly enough to think the way we've been playing we should look down on any top ten team.

As far as historic and all of that...means absolutely nothing. Your school doesn't grant you super powers.....last year take all the players from bammer put them on wofford, then wofford wins the championship. Players dictate how good a school is. School didn't add inches on anybody's vertical or make them run a 4.4

Well said, sir.

Dang , it that's true that sure changes my perspective. I live a few minutes from Wofford and know for a fact that they don't have indoor practice facilities or million-dollar weight rooms or multimillion dollar coaches with untold numbers of assistants and specialists . Of course there is the drawback that the majority of Bama players could not qualify academically at Wofford … Or managed to stay there if they happened to get accepted .

Seems like Bama and the other SEC schools are wasting a huge amount of money with all of this peripheral stuff .... And to think we have fired strength and conditioning coaches over the misbegotten believe that they have failed to properly develop our young athletes.

Winning at college football sounds easier than I previously understood .

..nice

[cole256 17,084]

Yes Clemson facilities suck so bad....lol. They do not even have a strength program. Only Alabama and Auburn know the secrets of getting stronger......And I didn't know Clemson was ivy league...winning in football is alot harder than I thought. Getting good players is on the backburner... I mean it's just Clemson, so what they have the best qb in America....unless he has come here of course....THEN how good he is would matter lol

[Barnacle 9,064]

I understand the expectation to win every game for the sake of having a winning mentality, but I'm not going to show a program less respect just because of the name of their school. If they have good coaches and good players, then I'm going to treat them like they have good coaches and players.

If Urban Meyer left Ohio State, and they went on a steady decline for 5 years, couldn't recruit like they have, didn't have a good coach, etc. I wouldn't show them the same respect that I would today just because they are Ohio State... So, I'm not going to give Clemson less respect just because they are Clemson. Also, what posters expect us to handle UGA and Bama every year?

Like Cole said, that doesn't mean we don't have the talent to win, because we do. As for revoking alumni privileges, I wouldn't normally expect a post like that from AU64.

[DAG 34,016]

I understand the expectation to win every game for the sake of having a winning mentality, but I'm not going to show a program less respect just because of the name of their school. If they have good coaches and good players, then I'm going to treat them like they have good coaches and players.

If Urban Meyer left Ohio State, and they went on a steady decline for 5 years, couldn't recruit like they have, didn't have a good coach, etc. I wouldn't show them the same respect that I would today just because they are Ohio State... So, I'm not going to give Clemson less respect just because they are Clemson.

I think that is what the likes of Cole, Tiger, etc is trying to get at. Thank you.

And the funny thing is, that type of attitude is exactly Bama like! "Oh yeah Clemson will probably be ranked in the top 3, with one of the best offenses in the nation and the best QB in the nation BUT they are still Clemson."

That is such an entitled attitude...

[PoetTiger 1,899]

Show of Internet hands....who thinks Clemson is not good because historically they may not be a blueblood program? They are legit and without doubt deserve respect from the fans. I am pretty sure the coaching staff and players respect the hell outta them regardless of what we think at the end of the day that is what matters most.

[Barnacle 9,064]

I understand the expectation to win every game for the sake of having a winning mentality, but I'm not going to show a program less respect just because of the name of their school. If they have good coaches and good players, then I'm going to treat them like they have good coaches and players.

If Urban Meyer left Ohio State, and they went on a steady decline for 5 years, couldn't recruit like they have, didn't have a good coach, etc. I wouldn't show them the same respect that I would today just because they are Ohio State... So, I'm not going to give Clemson less respect just because they are Clemson.

I think that is what the likes of Cole, Tiger, etc is trying to get at. Thank you.

And the funny thing is, that type of attitude is exactly Bama like! "Oh yeah Clemson will probably be ranked in the top 3, with one of the best offenses in the nation and the best QB in the nation BUT they are still Clemson."

That is such an entitled attitude...

And, to be fair, I don't see anyone in this thread with that type of attitude. I think what people are saying here is that in general, there are programs they feel we should always compete at a higher level than based upon resources, history, etc. However, the modern game is changing. Clemson has the resources. Clemson has the support. Clemson has the coaching. Clemson recruits as well as anyone, and as a result they have the players. I can see how someone might expect that Auburn always have better coaching, support, facilities, recruits, players, etc. That's fair. But when, despite that expectation, we aren't better in a few or more of those categories, I'm not going to ignore those facts.

My expectation for games has always been for Auburn to play their best game. If I think Auburn's best game is better than our opponent's best game, then I expect Auburn to win. When I think the opponent's best game is likely better, then I expect Auburn to play their best, and hope for a good outcome.

If Auburn plays their best game against Clemson, then we have a really good chance to win. If Clemson also plays their best game, I'm doubtful that we win. That's just the way I see it. In any given year, that expectation changes based upon all the things I've listed before.

[DAG 34,016]

I understand the expectation to win every game for the sake of having a winning mentality, but I'm not going to show a program less respect just because of the name of their school. If they have good coaches and good players, then I'm going to treat them like they have good coaches and players.

If Urban Meyer left Ohio State, and they went on a steady decline for 5 years, couldn't recruit like they have, didn't have a good coach, etc. I wouldn't show them the same respect that I would today just because they are Ohio State... So, I'm not going to give Clemson less respect just because they are Clemson.

I think that is what the likes of Cole, Tiger, etc is trying to get at. Thank you.

And the funny thing is, that type of attitude is exactly Bama like! "Oh yeah Clemson will probably be ranked in the top 3, with one of the best offenses in the nation and the best QB in the nation BUT they are still Clemson."

That is such an entitled attitude...

And, to be fair, I don't see anyone in this thread with that type of attitude. I think what people are saying here is that in general, there are programs they feel we should always compete at a higher level than based upon resources, history, etc. However, the modern game is changing. Clemson has the resources. Clemson has the support. Clemson has the coaching. Clemson recruits as well as anyone, and as a result they have the players. I can see how someone might expect that Auburn always have better coaching, support, facilities, recruits, players, etc. That's fair. But when, despite that expectation, we aren't better in a few or more of those categories, I'm not going to ignore those facts.

My expectation for games has always been for Auburn to play their best game. If I think Auburn's best game is better than our opponent's best game, then I expect Auburn to win. When I think the opponent's best game is likely better, then I expect Auburn to play their best, and hope for a good outcome.

If Auburn plays their best game against Clemson, then we have a really good chance to win. If Clemson also plays their best game, I'm doubtful that we win. That's just the way I see it. In any given year, that expectation changes based upon all the things I've listed before.

But in my mind, Clemson is still Clempson....no matter how many professional prospects they seem to have.

I have watched Auburn play Clemson off and on for more than 60 years and I never expect to see us lose to them...and that includes this year.

- AU64

Really now?

[Barnacle 9,064]

I understand the expectation to win every game for the sake of having a winning mentality, but I'm not going to show a program less respect just because of the name of their school. If they have good coaches and good players, then I'm going to treat them like they have good coaches and players.

If Urban Meyer left Ohio State, and they went on a steady decline for 5 years, couldn't recruit like they have, didn't have a good coach, etc. I wouldn't show them the same respect that I would today just because they are Ohio State... So, I'm not going to give Clemson less respect just because they are Clemson.

I think that is what the likes of Cole, Tiger, etc is trying to get at. Thank you.

And the funny thing is, that type of attitude is exactly Bama like! "Oh yeah Clemson will probably be ranked in the top 3, with one of the best offenses in the nation and the best QB in the nation BUT they are still Clemson."

That is such an entitled attitude...

And, to be fair, I don't see anyone in this thread with that type of attitude. I think what people are saying here is that in general, there are programs they feel we should always compete at a higher level than based upon resources, history, etc. However, the modern game is changing. Clemson has the resources. Clemson has the support. Clemson has the coaching. Clemson recruits as well as anyone, and as a result they have the players. I can see how someone might expect that Auburn always have better coaching, support, facilities, recruits, players, etc. That's fair. But when, despite that expectation, we aren't better in a few or more of those categories, I'm not going to ignore those facts.

My expectation for games has always been for Auburn to play their best game. If I think Auburn's best game is better than our opponent's best game, then I expect Auburn to win. When I think the opponent's best game is likely better, then I expect Auburn to play their best, and hope for a good outcome.

If Auburn plays their best game against Clemson, then we have a really good chance to win. If Clemson also plays their best game, I'm doubtful that we win. That's just the way I see it. In any given year, that expectation changes based upon all the things I've listed before.

But in my mind, Clemson is still Clempson....no matter how many professional prospects they seem to have.

I have watched Auburn play Clemson off and on for more than 60 years and I never expect to see us lose to them...and that includes this year.

- AU64

Really now?

I was trying to be nice. I'm not going to compare 64 to a bama fan.