Auburn is a top 10 team rn...

[austudnt23 1,432]

1 minute ago, Eagle-1 said:

Now you get it!

You are reading my posts right.  This is what I am saying we should win out and I believe we will, but if we don't it will be on the coaches. 

[weagl1 1,784]

We have top 10 talent but some of the worst OL coaching I have ever seen.  We had no push up front yesterday even against a mid level FCS team.  I know Clemson has one of the best DL's in the country but our OL could not even get a push against GA Southern and Mercer.  The talent is there but I am beginning to think there are 2 or 3 of them out there who are either so poorly coached they don't know what they are doing or they just plain don't give a crap.  And our WR corps is is not any better.  Sometimes they just look like they are out there just going through the motions.  There just appears to be a lack of motivation on the whole offense except for poor Bubba, who the coaches ride like a rented mule trying to get the rest of them going.  Somebody needs to build a fire under those guys or it's going to be a long season.  

On defense we have top 10 talent, top 10 coaching and a motivated bunch of guys who are going to keep us in games until they wear out and give up because staying on the field the whole season due to the ineptitude on the other side of the line.  

[Grumps 3,704]

3 hours ago, Eagle-1 said:

Did you really just say we could have easily have won against Clemson?  Dude, we had like 9 total yards the entire 2nd half. I swear some of you guys have got to be Gus's kinfolks. Geesh!

Look, I know that Clemson was better than we are, but we were in the game, even though it would have taken some luck for us to score. There have been MANY games where it would take more than a little luck for us to win. I support Gus and the Auburn football team because he is Auburn's coach and they are Auburn's players and for no other reason. I would love to see more people support the team just because they love them...maybe next year, huh?

[IronMan70 3,277]

Gus's biggest issue all along has been to transition from "offensive guru OC" to Head Coach. Just like most teams, Auburn needs a big picture HC and always has.  So it was a step in the right direction to see Gus lose the clipboard, get off the headset most of the time, operate as a HC and let Lindsey run his offense. It needs to stay that way on game day and during the week imho.

Stidham's scan, reaction time and decision making looked better than the week before. He threw the ball well for the most part. Hastings ran some nice crisp routes to get separation, other WRs need to follow suit. The OL needs improvement, the WRs need to get better and the turnovers have to stop. Hopefully we will improve more this week. We move on.    

[Dual-Threat Rigby 8,667]

Our offensive line is bottom 3 at best tho

[Eagle-1 3,821]

21 minutes ago, Grumps said:

Look, I know that Clemson was better than we are, but we were in the game, even though it would have taken some luck for us to score. There have been MANY games where it would take more than a little luck for us to win. I support Gus and the Auburn football team because he is Auburn's coach and they are Auburn's players and for no other reason. I would love to see more people support the team just because they love them...maybe next year, huh?

Well rah rah rah man. Whatever floats your boat. I have been an avid supporter of Auburn since the sixties. When a coach ain't getting it done, I'm going to call them on it. Gus is 11-14 in his last 25 SEC games. That ain't getting it done friend.

[doverstutts 1,643]

5 minutes ago, Dual-Threat Rigby said:

Our offensive line is bottom 3 at best tho

worst AU O-line that I have ever seen.    The suckage from being poorly coached is one thing, but I don't see any quality players other than Smith, and maybe Golson

[Eagle-1 3,821]

42 minutes ago, austudnt23 said:

You are reading my posts right.  This is what I am saying we should win out and I believe we will, but if we don't it will be on the coaches. 

No man don't back off now. You said we were going to run the table until the Iron Bowl. If we do you can serve all the Crow you want, and I will gladly eat, but if not I'm going to remind you how delusional you are.

[AUIH1 1,515]

8 minutes ago, Eagle-1 said:

No man don't back off now. You said we were going to run the table until the Iron Bowl. If we do you can serve all the Crow you want, and I will gladly eat, but if not I'm going to remind you how delusional you are.

Oh hell yes.  I thought 23 learned a lesson last season with JFIII, but he is doubling down.

wde

[doverstutts 1,643]

8 minutes ago, Eagle-1 said:

No man don't back off now. You said we were going to run the table until the Iron Bowl. If we do you can serve all the Crow you want, and I will gladly eat, but if not I'm going to remind you how delusional you are.

you bringin' the heat today, bubba.    I'll have your back until I run out of likes

[Eagle-1 3,821]

1 minute ago, doverstutts said:

you bringin' the heat today, bubba.    I'll have your back until I run out of likes

Man I just can't find the logic in all this sunshine. Gus gas a losing record in SEC play snice October of 2014, and now miraculously he is going to build momentum off that big win over Mercer, and run the table in the SEC. WOW, just WOW.

[AUpreacherman22 3,885]

JS was very efficient yesterday, regardless of competition.  

We will see a big difference in the game plan, and the effectiveness of that game plan IF we can get and keep KP and KJ healthy at the same time. (and that's a BIG IF!!!)

OL and WRs need a TON of work!!!  I see the potential you're talking about @austudnt23, I doubt that many would argue our talent and depth in these areas, but I won't have confidence in these units until I see more improvement. 

The biggest things for me are:

First, the head-scratcher game planning (KP carrying 34 times against Mercer, Ryan Davis and Will Hastings running deep routes instead of NCM, KD, DS, etc. guys that are more likely to win those battles, the tight sets, etc. I could go on)

Second, the complete and total lack of adjustments. When something doesn't work, or if the other team adjusts to what we are doing, we have had 0 answers!!!  This is ongoing and consistent.

Third, the overall lack of mental focus. Turnovers, drops, missed field goals, muffing punts, etc.  

All of these things are major red flags!  They are all 100% on coaching.  I've got to see these things improve before I can confidently get back on the Gus Bus. 

[Eagle-1 3,821]

2 minutes ago, AUpreacherman22 said:

JS was very efficient yesterday, regardless of competition.  

We will see a big difference in the game plan, and the effectiveness of that game plan IF we can get and keep KP and KJ healthy at the same time. (and that's a BIG IF!!!)

OL and WRs need a TON of work!!!  I see the potential you're talking about @austudnt23, I doubt that many would argue our talent and depth in these areas, but I won't have confidence in these units until I see more improvement. 

The biggest things for me are:

First, the head-scratcher game planning (KP carrying 34 times against Mercer, Ryan Davis and Will Hastings running deep routes instead of NCM, KD, DS, etc. guys that are more likely to win those battles, the tight sets, etc. I could go on)

Second, the complete and total lack of adjustments. When something doesn't work, or if the other team adjusts to what we are doing, we have had 0 answers!!!  This is ongoing and consistent.

Third, the overall lack of mental focus. Turnovers, drops, missed field goals, muffing punts, etc.  

All of these things are major red flags!  They are all 100% on coaching.  I've got to see these things improve before I can confidently get back on the Gus Bus. 

It's not an anomaly either brother. It continues to repeat itself over, and over. Most rational observant football fans know we are poorly coached. Gus has probably sold more liquor in the state of Alabama in the last three years than AL Capone.

[Eagle-1 3,821]

Got to sign off now fellas. Time for my nap.

[Strychnine 1,802]

2 hours ago, Brad_ATX said:

Seconded.  I'm not going as far as saying undefeated until the Iron Bowl, but I'm not melting like most either.  It was a weird game where ball security negated at least 28 points and gifted them 3.  However, turnovers really have not been a trend under Gus coached teams.  If you want to concern yourself, worry about the o-line not getting a great push and the lack of a RB rotation.  On the positive side, we threw the ball 48% of the time on first down and looked a lot faster getting to the LOS on offense.

Folks, we play a BAD Mizzou team next week.  In fact, I think Mercer may be better coached than Mizzou.  I'll say the same thing I said yesterday: it won't take much improvement for us to look great in Columbia, especially if just protect the football.  If that happens, maybe some people will calm down a little.  Hell, the game will be more of a neutral site game than a road one based on their attendance yesterday.

 

After calming down, I am not melting down.  I have a real concern about player management (related to Pettway), but I am standing by for more data on the team overall.  I have seen plenty of struggles against teams that should have merely been a glorified scrimmage as a game simulation, and that is what I think yesterday was.  Even the defense was afflicted by it.  I did not like that Pettway played at all, or that he was out there for the entire game.  While I think he is wrong, if Gus thinks we need Pettway to beat an FCS team, when the offensive plan is to focus on passing, then that has me concerned.

I liked the focus on passing, and I hope they stick with it until a team gives them a reason not to.  I really, really, really would not mind if they could find another method of scoring TD's than the wildcat.  I love Carlson's skill, but I am really, really, really tired of field goals.

[Farmer Brown 2,391]

This is how you get a lot of responses. Say something absolutely outlandish. We might have top ten talent, but we have a lower tier head coach. That coach for Mercer is better than what we have for a head coach. I wonder if the linebackers for Mercer were too big for our other ball carriers? Gus said that the kicking game was "good". He is disconnected from reality. His first scripted plays usually gets him a field goal or two. When the defense adjusts, he doesn't know what to do. That is the way it appears. But, what do I know? I am a armchair coach.

[AUIH1 1,515]

Just now, Farmer Brown said:

This is how you get a lot of responses. Say something absolutely outlandish. We might have top ten talent, but we have a lower tier head coach. That coach for Mercer is better than what we have for a head coach. I wonder if the linebackers for Mercer were too big for our other ball carriers? Gus said that the kicking game was "good". He is disconnected from reality. His first scripted plays usually gets him a field goal or two. When the defense adjusts, he doesn't know what to do. That is the way it appears. But, what do I know? I am a armchair coach.

And the non-brainwashed choir said Amen.

wde

[Randman5000 4,228]

COULD be a top ten team. NOT a top ten team. There's a long way between what we could be and what we are. Everyone's seen this picture before. They need to get better, that's very clear or we aren't watching the same game. The defense is great but the offense has been screwed up by the coach. The problem is no one trusts Gus to get the job done and it is perfectly reasonable based on his record and what everyone has seen. We've lost too many games that we should have won. It's glaring. We are letting it play out but its clear to everyone that we aren't a top ten team. We're panicking because we want the season to be saved. Again, no one trusts the HC to lead us there. 

[aubiefifty 16,791]

We play the returning Natty's close enough to have a chance to win the game.surely you guys have seen teams struggle with cupcakes the following week? It happens a lot and to great teams. Gus was told to change and he is doing just that. We are turning a running team into a passing team. The o line was asked to change their style of blocking. Our receivers who were taught to block are now adjusting to new route trees and have not caught a ton of balls in the past so it seems to me they might be playing catch-up. We have a talented QB who is shaking the rust off while running for his life. And yes it looks worse...especially with the track record Gus has. Until everyone learns all the ins and outs it is not going to look pretty.I can tell Gus is coaching scared by his use of pettway and giving other backs a shot.are the other backs hurt? Now l am not big on Gus at the moment but he was asked to change and he is trying.there is a learning curve to get past. I think it takes a while to go from a big-time running coach to a pass first coach. And I think the crap being piled on coach is misdirected. The ad let this crap get out of hand and I believe we are at the point where we do not want to allow enough time to fix things. And some of you have gotten nasty enough to make comments about a running back sleeping with guses wife. And at one time all of us for the most part wanted gus after winning the natty with him. I know this much. We can be much better fans than we are showng.War eagle! 

 

[mustache eagle 2,402]

7 hours ago, austudnt23 said:

Stop melting please. Look I am not happy about the score yesterday at all or the turnovers. There is some facts some people are ignoring. We ran Chip offense and executed very well except for turnovers. Stidham threw for 370 when was last time we had a qb throw for that many yards? I really don't know. If we don't turn ball overy we score 5p plus and win by 30 plus. Kam Pettway ...

Undefeated until Iron Bowl. 

There were alot of things I liked yesterday.  370 and 86% among them.  A tentative stidham doesn't freak me out if he improves ... I'm simply in an I will believe it when I see it mode.  Our defense is legit.

BUT ... I've lost most of my faith in cgm.  He can gain it back but 34 carries by KM, zero carries by the other backs, still suspect OL, still suspect receivers, not running our full offense against ga south (leading to our now second string QB being at third string experience), some still suspect play calls in the red zone, our worsening special teams ... I just don't have the optimism.  

At this point I could see us with one loss at the iron bowl with a massively improved team but can also see us as a 5 loss team that has disintegrating leadership ... that is where I am based on the last 2 seasons with Malzahn.  Last year was supposed to be his mulligan and this year was supposed to be when he swallowed some pride and allowed himself to mature as a coach.  Again, I'll believe it when I see it.

i so so so want to see it!

[BJCrawford 1,568]

Not sure where to put this (and I don't start threads) but we open as a 17 point favorite over Missouri. About what everyone would think? 

[djg0017 726]

5 minutes ago, BJCrawford said:

Not sure where to put this (and I don't start threads) but we open as a 17 point favorite over Missouri. About what everyone would think? 

I'll take Auburn to beat the spread. Barring more than 2 turnovers, Mizzou D is seriously terrible enough to make our average offense look great. And they scored 3 points on Purdue.. doubt they score more than 14 on AU.

I'd like to see a repeat of the Mercer game with 0 turnovers and a different RB -- KP needs to rest.

[Brad_ATX 13,654]

23 minutes ago, BJCrawford said:

Not sure where to put this (and I don't start threads) but we open as a 17 point favorite over Missouri. About what everyone would think? 

I'll lay those 17 right now.  If the casino in St Louis allowed sports betting, I'd have some action on the game before heading over.

[tigerbrotha12 2,362]

I agree with this post. All who are attacking are mad that It looks familiar, not from this season alone. I agree, this is a top 10 team 

[casatiger 513]

Gus has pulled it together before and Got the ship righted.  I am rooting for him.  I.have my doubts though.  For the players sake I hope he does.