Insiders Hearing Anything? (Threads Merged)

[ellitor 33,114]

3 hours ago, wcware said:

Were we grabbing a bunch of kids that their star ranking was overrated and other schools had passed up on?

@wcware No. They just haven't been developed at most positions, especially offensively.

[ellitor 33,114]

3 hours ago, PigskinPat said:

Am I the only one that’s starting to feel like this? 

Starting to??? Been feeling like this for a few years now.

[Viper 3,134]

45 minutes ago, DAG said:

The new QB is shaky at best. I watched some of the game and he did make a lot of Individual mistakes and bad reads. Chalk that up however you like it.

My take on Mario is this...he signed the #1 DL in the nation two years ago. He has them at #3 currently...at freaking Oregon! This without Chip Kelly’s flashy offense luring recruits.

In other words, who cares about the recent two close losses? Guy is trending much the same way Kirbs did to start his career at GA. Does anyone at GA currently care how bad they were in 2016?

I’ve never wished for AU to lose under any circumstances, but I’m making an exception this Saturday because I 100% believe Gus will back in 2021 if we win. 50% chance if we lose.

NOW is the time to sign Mario! And agree with you...pay him a good, not great salary, so he can surround himself with great assistants. 

Hell, I’m even on board with Mario hiring Freeze as his OC. *trolling lines dropped*

[ellitor 33,114]

16 minutes ago, DAG said:

Give us the shortlist! My apologies if you already did this

Was done yesterday by Barnacle & sparked the current conversation. Super Mario & Hugh "Winter is Coming" Freeze.

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7 minutes ago, Viper said:

I’ve never wished for AU to lose under any circumstances, but I’m making an exception this Saturday because

Not that it makes one bit of difference, but I am doing the same. I hate to do it but I am tired of "Groundhog Day" reruns every Saturday in the fall

[AUGunsmith 666]

1 hour ago, AUDevil said:

As much as you may want them to, Auburn's simply not hiring a guy that has 2 out of those 3 traits. 

Try 3 of 3. 

[AUApostle 7,658]

2 minutes ago, AUGunsmith said:

Try 3 of 3. 

Is polygamy THAT frowned upon?

[Viper 3,134]

1 hour ago, KnightTiger said:

Im reminded of when a caller called into finebaums show in 2012 during the Auburn/Petrino rumors the person stated to win recruiting battles against Petrino and Auburn all opposing coaches would have to do is "bring up the reason Petrino was no longer at Arkansas along with the fact that he has a history of job hopping" and parents of recruits would have two things to think about 

#1 do they want their kids playing for someone like this

#2 what if he tells their child he will be coaching them next year and when next season rolls around he isnt

i dont like it but unfortunately that is a weapon opposing coaches would have at their advantage

 

Freezes outing at Ole Miss would be another thing opposing coaches in the sec could use if Auburn were to hire him. example maybe a star linebacker or quarterback has offers from  Auburn, Georgia, LSU and Alabama. Freeze is the head coach of Auburn this recruit is on the verge of committing to Auburn and Freeze but Saban. Orgeron and even Smart bring up the reason Freeze is no longer at ole miss to this recruit who is unaware as his parents are

i'll shut up now but i do think this is another concern folks have when it comes to hiring folks like petrino, freeze. briles etc at auburn all opposing coaches have to do is bring up the crap that got them in trouble and it possibly sways recruits

You wrote a novel when the cliffnotes would have won the Pulitzer. 

Can’t agree more with your point. 

Further, why take the HUGE risk of hiring a KNOWN cheater, hoping he won’t cheat again, reap some 10, 11, 12-win success, possibly have to forfeit those wins five years later and then have to compete with Vandy for recruits for five years? 

It’s like buying an ATV with no roll cage, that is street legal and is capable of 120 MPH. And you just handed the keys to your 16-year old and said Happy freaking BDay. BTW son, there’s plenty of beer in the cooler.

[Viper 3,134]

1 hour ago, keesler said:

How can anyone at Auburn know what's in a man's heart anyway?  Hugh can spout off anything he wants and he could stand at the pulpit & raise his voice to heaven claiming to be forgiven and a changed man.  At the end of the day, he has a past both in his moral character and his business character which landed OM on severe sanctions they are still reeling from. 

Is Auburn willing to take that risk?  IDK

Not a chance. 

[aubaseball 2,652]

1 hour ago, KnightTiger said:

Im reminded of when a caller called into finebaums show in 2012 during the Auburn/Petrino rumors the person stated to win recruiting battles against Petrino and Auburn all opposing coaches would have to do is "bring up the reason Petrino was no longer at Arkansas along with the fact that he has a history of job hopping" and parents of recruits would have two things to think about 

#1 do they want their kids playing for someone like this

#2 what if he tells their child he will be coaching them next year and when next season rolls around he isnt

i dont like it but unfortunately that is a weapon opposing coaches would have at their advantage

 

The first part isn’t factually correct.    When Auburn was going to get Petrino, he was coaching at Louisville.   The motorcycle ride hadn’t happened yet.   Unless you knew the man personally and knew that this was in his character traits, Petrino would have been just like any other coach. 

[The Freak 2,528]

2 minutes ago, aubaseball said:

The first part isn’t factually correct.    When Auburn was going to get Petrino, he was coaching at Louisville.   The motorcycle ride hadn’t happened yet.   Unless you knew the man personally and knew that this was in his character traits, Petrino would have been just like any other coach. 

He coached at Louisville twice.  Once pre-beaver lake, once post.  Auburn was looking to hire him both times.  Well, mostly just fans the second time.

[Auburn2Eugene 2,317]

18 minutes ago, Viper said:

Further, why take the HUGE risk of hiring a KNOWN cheater, hoping he won’t cheat again

I havent posted here in a LONG time

 

But you must be disgusted by the fact Bruce Pearl was hired and is still employed by Auburn University.

 

Otherwise you are being immensely hypocritical.

[SocialCircle 570]

1 hour ago, keesler said:

Is Gus oblivious to the fact that HE is the boss and can override his OC at any time?  After the 1st or 2nd INT it as plain as day the Nix didn't have it in the noggin.  

Gus had the right to step in and run the damn ball and tell HIS subordinate to step aside.  If Gus would have then the should have.  Do you not agree?

Gus can’t win no matter what he does. One is saying and complaining Gus is running the offense and you are complaining because you think he didn’t step in and call plays in Columbia. Can’t have it both ways. 

[oracle79 3,569]

34 minutes ago, Auburn2Eugene said:

But you must be disgusted by the fact Bruce Pearl was hired and is still employed by Auburn University.

 

Otherwise you are being immensely hypocritical.

So having recruits over for a cookout is equivalent to banging hookers?

And on Falwell, hey everyone needs someone to clean their pool right?😂

[woodford 3,667]

5 minutes ago, Auburn2Eugene said:

I havent posted here in a LONG time

 

But you must be disgusted by the fact Bruce Pearl was hired and is still employed by Auburn University.

 

Otherwise you are being immensely hypocritical.

Bruce Pearl was a victim of arbitrary NCAA rules. That story was then blown out of proportion by the media. The common denominator with all these "cheating" cases is the NCAA and their dated rules and regulations.

[WalkingCarpet 1,379]

3 minutes ago, Auburn2Eugene said:

I havent posted here in a LONG time

 

But you must be disgusted by the fact Bruce Pearl was hired and is still employed by Auburn University.

 

Otherwise you are being immensely hypocritical.

Bruce ain't a choir boy but there's a slight difference between having players and recruits over for a barbecue and using your university issued phone to call an escort service over a number of years as well as the shady booster stuff that was going on. 

[Viper 3,134]

1 minute ago, Auburn2Eugene said:

I havent posted here in a LONG time

 

But you must be disgusted by the fact Bruce Pearl was hired and is still employed by Auburn University.

 

Otherwise you are being immensely hypocritical.

Was wondering where you were. Glad I flushed you out. 

I care a bazillion times more about CFB than CBB. The Final Four run was epic, but I’ll take a CFB playoff run 100 times out of 100 over a Final Four run.

Further, Pearl got caught with a recruit at his BBQ party. Should we do a deep dive on the reasons why Ole Miss was reduced by TWENTY-FOUR schollies?

[bigbird 60,580]

5 minutes ago, SocialCircle said:

Gus can’t win no matter what he does. One is saying and complaining Gus is running the offense and you are complaining because you think he didn’t step in and call plays in Columbia. Can’t have it both ways. 

I'd prefer neither

[Auburn2Eugene 2,317]

Just now, oracle79 said:

So having recruits over for a cookout is equivalent to banging hookers?

And on Freeze, hey everyone needs someone to clean their pool right?😂

Yeah. That is the only thing that people think of when they think of Bruce Pearl. 

Im not saying what they think is warranted but probation has followed Bruce. Even to our campus. And dont give me Persons. Persons was employed under Bruce. Bruce was and is the head coach. Just like Gus, Bruce is responsible for his assistants and what they bring to the program. 

I love Bruce. Dont get me wrong, but I'm not one that feels the need to tred the moral high ground all the time. 

 

 

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[Auburn2Eugene 2,317]

1 minute ago, Viper said:

Was wondering where you were. Glad I flushed you out. 

I care a bazillion times more about CFB than CBB. The Final Four run was epic, but I’ll take a CFB playoff run 100 times out of 100 over a Final Four run.

Further, Pearl got caught with a recruit at his BBQ party. Should we do a deep dive on the reasons why Ole Miss was reduced by TWENTY-FOUR schollies?

No. Im just saying a rose is a rose is a rose. 

Arbitrary rules or not. Probation and post season bans are just that. Both coaches have had those issues is all im saying.

[Auburn2Eugene 2,317]

4 minutes ago, Viper said:

Was wondering where you were.

I have been here lurking and reading posts. Ive just had a difficult time posting here since my man jang (Jeff) was banned unjustly in my eyes. 

But times like this make me want to engage lol

[Malcolm_FleX48 1,869]

Lets get realistic, Gus isn't going anywhere. You need to be able to upgrade if you're going to get rid of a coach that has managed to defeat Nick Saban TWICE in one of the hardest football conferences as well as starting the years ranked each time. It's why I made the thread that "The Football Gods Want Auburn to Keep Gus," there just isn't any way to justify moving on at this point realistically. That's what the board is looking at, not to mention, the financial picture to UPGRADE from a university picture isn't realistic. The downside of bringing Gus back isn't high enough on paper to warrant firing him, paying the buyout, and then taking a chance on any coach with prospects low enough to come to Auburn.

You only have the option to get 2 guys:
1.) A stop gap coach with no prospects that would be willing to take one of the HARDEST coaching positions in the nation bar none.

2.) A superior coach that is leaving the NFL or has enough money thrown at them to come to Auburn. (Money that we don't have available mind you.)

Neither of these guys are available. And if they are, Auburn, coming off of a covid year where money was already thin, won't be able to encourage them to come to a dilapidated Auburn with piss poor recruiting by conference comparison, a growing conference that is only reloading for next year, a dismal situation at QB that would require an expert to fix, talent's leaving at WR and possibly defense and HIGHER THAN HIGH STANDARDS BY FANBASE AND NATION. Its just a risk to take this job...

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11 minutes ago, AUDevil said:

Yeah, getting him away from Oregon might indeed be a tough task.

[abw0004 10,134]

Just to refresh everyone's memory, it wasn't really the cookout itself that landed Pearl in hot water.  It was that Bruce lied about it and said the cookout never happened.  Then a picture surfaced and that makes things worse because then you wonder what else he lied about.  Had Bruce just admitted it, he would most likely still be Tennessee's coach.  Something like that I am happy we gave him a second chance.  There are some things that you can move on from and give another chance.  Others, like the kind of assault on the opposite gender, should never be excused or given a second chance.

Another example because I saw it mentioned yesterday is I would give Sark a second chance here if he is the right fit football-wise.  Being in a small town like Auburn might actually benefit someone with alcohol-abuse history.  I would be more concerned with him in a place like Athens, where you can't throw a rock without hitting a bar.